Another Moro Kriss. This One with Arabic/Jawi(?) Script On the Blade

Battara · 10th February 2016, 06:08 PM

Very nice Charles. Congratulations! It doesn't look like the same name as Piang, but then again I don't read jawi.

I might place the blade a little earlier toward the turn of the century. Also the grenning, th "beak" on the ganga, and the scabbard are Maguindanao in appearance, so I agree.

Maybe Oliver can translate yours like he did mine.

carlitobrigante · 10th February 2016, 06:56 PM

fascinating piece. Please keep up posted on how the research into Mr.Soloman goes!

Gustav · 10th February 2016, 07:32 PM

Most probably you can find him here:

https://archive.org/stream/acx2371.0...age/1/mode/2up

There is a misprint just on his name (Walter Walter is him):

https://archive.org/stream/acx2371.0...walter+salomon

and another misprint in index:

https://archive.org/stream/acx2371.0...walter+salomon

And perhaps his daughter:

http://easthamptonstar.com/Obituarie...l-E-Salomon-96

Regards,
Gustav

CharlesS · 10th February 2016, 09:05 PM

Amazing work Gustav. With a name like "Salomon" it likely can't be anyone else other then the one you found. His appointment in 1911 goes along perfectly with how Battara and I guesstimated the age of the kriss.

Thanks SO MUCH for this incredible help!

Now, if we can just get that Jawi translated.

Gustav · 10th February 2016, 09:18 PM

You are welcome.

Regards,
Gustav

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 11th February 2016, 09:51 AM

Salaams All....What Script?... It says in English Walter Salomon...The Arabic on the other side says exactly the same !! Walter Salomon. Arabic proceeds without showing vowels wltr slmn and no capitals.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

CharlesS · 11th February 2016, 12:32 PM

Thanks for helping us complete the translation Ibrahiim.

11th February 2016, 09:51 AM	#6
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams All....What Script?... It says in English Walter Salomon...The Arabic on the other side says exactly the same !! Walter Salomon. Arabic proceeds without showing vowels wltr slmn and no capitals. Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 11th February 2016 at 10:23 AM.

10th February 2016, 06:08 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Very nice Charles. Congratulations! It doesn't look like the same name as Piang, but then again I don't read jawi. I might place the blade a little earlier toward the turn of the century. Also the grenning, th "beak" on the ganga, and the scabbard are Maguindanao in appearance, so I agree. Maybe Oliver can translate yours like he did mine.

10th February 2016, 06:56 PM	#2
carlitobrigante Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Solihull, UK Posts: 81	fascinating piece. Please keep up posted on how the research into Mr.Soloman goes!

10th February 2016, 07:32 PM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	Most probably you can find him here: https://archive.org/stream/acx2371.0...age/1/mode/2up There is a misprint just on his name (Walter Walter is him): https://archive.org/stream/acx2371.0...walter+salomon and another misprint in index: https://archive.org/stream/acx2371.0...walter+salomon And perhaps his daughter: http://easthamptonstar.com/Obituarie...l-E-Salomon-96 Regards, Gustav

10th February 2016, 09:05 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Amazing work Gustav. With a name like "Salomon" it likely can't be anyone else other then the one you found. His appointment in 1911 goes along perfectly with how Battara and I guesstimated the age of the kriss. Thanks SO MUCH for this incredible help! Now, if we can just get that Jawi translated.

10th February 2016, 09:18 PM	#5
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,273	You are welcome. Regards, Gustav

11th February 2016, 12:32 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks for helping us complete the translation Ibrahiim.