On the Use of Indian Terms for Identification of Weapon Types

Mercenary · 16th January 2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

I bet that some of those patterns eventually got new and specific names based on distant localities. Everybody likes to be a source of something unique and patriotic. Perhaps that is why we have so many different hilt patterns:-)

It is very nice that my many year's efforts on the Russian forum were not in vain.

Mercenary · 16th January 2016, 01:14 PM

One more "style". Bundi shahi )))

Jens Nordlunde · 16th January 2016, 04:11 PM

Mercenary,
How do you know that this is a Bundi hilt, and how old would you say it is?
From which museum is the picture?
Jens

Mercenary · 17th January 2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Mercenary,
How do you know that this is a Bundi hilt, and how old would you say it is?
From which museum is the picture?
Jens

It was joke. I many times wrote on another forum that to define of the hilt style as the place of production is mostly mind game. But I was alone. Likewise I many years have been talking that in the case of Indian weapons of the 19th century we are dealing mainly with Indian souvenirs of the 19th century. I am glad that such things are now beginning to understand.

Jens Nordlunde · 17th January 2016, 03:45 PM

Some of the hilts can with some certainty be pointed to a specific place, but it is not easy and the uncertainty is quite big.
We know that they at Bikaner made hilts for export to other parts of India, but we dont know of it was the same hilt type they made, or if they made the hilts according to the fashion at the place where it was supposed to be sold.

Mercenary · 17th January 2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

Some of the hilts can with some certainty be pointed to a specific place, but it is not easy and the uncertainty is quite big.
We know that they at Bikaner made hilts for export to other parts of India, but we dont know of it was the same hilt type they made, or if they made the hilts according to the fashion at the place where it was supposed to be sold.

You are right. It would be very interesting if we can know the place of origin or the fashion at the place. But it doesn't make any sense taking into account the degree of mobility of the population of North and Central India in 18-19th.
If only local court fashion...

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17th January 2016, 03:45 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Some of the hilts can with some certainty be pointed to a specific place, but it is not easy and the uncertainty is quite big. We know that they at Bikaner made hilts for export to other parts of India, but we dont know of it was the same hilt type they made, or if they made the hilts according to the fashion at the place where it was supposed to be sold.