French? Cavalry Sword

Jim McDougall · 30th October 2015, 07:31 PM

Well noted, and true the casting and execution is pretty crude. Obviously the 'lances' are far from convincing, and most military representations of these in uniforms etc. have at least a furl or something beyond a crude triangle.
The neo classic figure on the pommel keeps reminding me of 'Mercury' with the wings on the hat (though these are flattened).
I cannot imagine what the N and IV would be for.

What seems distinct is the scabbard and blade, of 1796 style but perhaps German, as these type numeric and letter seem of the often complex regimental and unit designations used by them. With this numbering present it brings to mind perhaps some sort of 'after market' production of this strange hilt using the blade and scabbard of a military sword.

That seems like a lot of difficulty for such an endeavor, which is even more questionable with even the spacer present, but returning to the idea of fraternal or other organizations possible if numbers of these required.
The more I look at this of course, the more I feel I have seen something like it before

kronckew · 7th November 2015, 11:03 PM

reminds me of a bandsman's sabre (1st with 2-ring scabbard) or a cavalry bugler's sabre (2nd with leather scabbard). maybe a lancer regimental bugler's sabre?

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Valjhun · 8th November 2015, 01:23 AM

My guess would be British, judging the scabbard features, perhaps cavalry bandsman, like Kronckew already suggested. There seems to be something on the back of the hilt. Can you post a photo?

templarnight · 3rd January 2016, 08:57 PM

Sorry for not replying sooner.

Please find a picture of the Back of the Hilt...

7th November 2015, 11:03 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,249	reminds me of a bandsman's sabre (1st with 2-ring scabbard) or a cavalry bugler's sabre (2nd with leather scabbard). maybe a lancer regimental bugler's sabre? (not mine ) Attached Images

3rd January 2016, 08:57 PM	#4
templarnight Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 87	Sorry for not replying sooner. Please find a picture of the Back of the Hilt... Attached Images

30th October 2015, 07:31 PM	#1
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,582	Well noted, and true the casting and execution is pretty crude. Obviously the 'lances' are far from convincing, and most military representations of these in uniforms etc. have at least a furl or something beyond a crude triangle. The neo classic figure on the pommel keeps reminding me of 'Mercury' with the wings on the hat (though these are flattened). I cannot imagine what the N and IV would be for. What seems distinct is the scabbard and blade, of 1796 style but perhaps German, as these type numeric and letter seem of the often complex regimental and unit designations used by them. With this numbering present it brings to mind perhaps some sort of 'after market' production of this strange hilt using the blade and scabbard of a military sword. That seems like a lot of difficulty for such an endeavor, which is even more questionable with even the spacer present, but returning to the idea of fraternal or other organizations possible if numbers of these required. The more I look at this of course, the more I feel I have seen something like it before

8th November 2015, 01:23 AM	#3
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	My guess would be British, judging the scabbard features, perhaps cavalry bandsman, like Kronckew already suggested. There seems to be something on the back of the hilt. Can you post a photo?