Turkish Shamshir

[ALEX]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Just like "katar" and many other terms, its good to know the origins, history and the original meanings but you also have to adjust with the times, armor and weapons terms are fluid and they do change over time.

..sorry, I do not understand what this means.
Katar is katar and will remain katar over time. why would any term change for the same type of weapon? Why all of the sudden some call an Indian sword Saif? the term is used inadvertently by many but it is not good reason to "adjust". Also, where did you see this handle type being associated with or called Saif?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by ALEX

Katar is katar and will remain katar over time. why would any term change for the same type of weapon?

Are you sure, not everyone agrees with you.

The katar originated in South India where its original name was kattari before being altered to katara (romanized as "katar" by the British)

[ALEX]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Are you sure, not everyone agrees with you.

this is semantics, really. it is essentially the same term and I am not arguing about the spelling, dialect or pronunciation of the same weapon type.
But my point is: it's wrong to call Indo-Persian sword an Arabian sword, don't you disagree?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by ALEX

this is semantics, really. it is essentially the same term and I am not arguing about the spelling. But my point is: it's wrong to call Indo-Persian sword an Arab sword, don't you disagree?

Alex, I personally do not think there is anything wrong with calling an Indian sword with a saif hilt a "saif hilted Indian sword"....if someone told me over the phone that they just purchased an Indian sword I would have no idea what it looked like, on the other hand if it was described as a "saif hilted Indian sword" I would have a good idea what the sword looked like.