Plains stone axe for ?ing

David · 18th October 2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Thank you for your interest. This piece is sewn with sinew, but supplies of thread sinew can be found on the internet. The stone takes some skill to make. How much time does it take to do this? How much money does a faker , fantasy reproduction artist want from thier efforts?

It's an interesting item for sure Tim. One possibility doesn't really seem to be considered here. Sometimes hobbyists create pieces like this purely for their own enjoyment. A am currently working on my own battle axe right now. Forged the head from a railway spike. So it may not necessarily be a matter of how much effort a faker might be willing to put into such a piece for the effort. I have put many hours of work into my axe and shed a bit of blood over it besides. It's about the love and accomplishment of making the thing, not any money since it is not for sale. But years down the line when some one finds it in my estate sale...???

Of course my axe isn't being made to appear to be from any one culture so it probably won't fool anyone. But lots of folks make such things as close to original specs as they can just to show they can still do it.

Tim Simmons · 18th October 2015, 06:11 PM

Yes some people are obviously prepared to spend a lot of money on potentially hobby work.

Tim Simmons · 20th October 2015, 04:19 PM

Interesting objects, late 19th century.

http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology/...0%20%2F%204558

Tim Simmons · 25th October 2015, 04:54 PM

I just cannot help myself now I have found more.

http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology/...0%20%2F%209073

Tim Simmons · 31st December 2015, 04:33 PM

I just want to say that I have identified the stone. "Rhyolite" This pink Rhyolite {high grade} is high in silica which makes knapping possible. It is a volcanic stone. If you look carefully you can see holes where gas has escaped. These holes are known as "Vugs" I am sure you needed to know that.

scroll down
http://www.thudscave.com/petroglyphs/knappable.htm

Tim Simmons · 31st December 2015, 05:14 PM

Stuff about Shoshone stone knapping from 1860s onwards, the women were the best at knapping. The Shoshone would have access to the high silica rhyolite quarries which is found in the western USA.

http://www.blm.gov/style/medialib/bl...ven%201992.pdf

Tim Simmons · 27th February 2016, 04:31 PM

This was on ebay and an offer was excepted. To me it looks very much like a very enthusiastic copy. The blue is so very blue the brass studs are sooo old looking. Glad I paid at least 10 times less. I have saved pictures for when the ebay ones have gone. Also flint rather than rhyolite which is clearly discernable. One easy to nap the other hard.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIG-NATIV...vip=true&rt=nc

18th October 2015, 06:11 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Yes some people are obviously prepared to spend a lot of money on potentially hobby work.

20th October 2015, 04:19 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Interesting objects, late 19th century. http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology/...0%20%2F%204558

25th October 2015, 04:54 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	I just cannot help myself now I have found more. http://anthro.amnh.org/anthropology/...0%20%2F%209073

31st December 2015, 04:33 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	I just want to say that I have identified the stone. "Rhyolite" This pink Rhyolite {high grade} is high in silica which makes knapping possible. It is a volcanic stone. If you look carefully you can see holes where gas has escaped. These holes are known as "Vugs" I am sure you needed to know that. scroll down http://www.thudscave.com/petroglyphs/knappable.htm

31st December 2015, 05:14 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Stuff about Shoshone stone knapping from 1860s onwards, the women were the best at knapping. The Shoshone would have access to the high silica rhyolite quarries which is found in the western USA. http://www.blm.gov/style/medialib/bl...ven%201992.pdf

27th February 2016, 04:31 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	This was on ebay and an offer was excepted. To me it looks very much like a very enthusiastic copy. The blue is so very blue the brass studs are sooo old looking. Glad I paid at least 10 times less. I have saved pictures for when the ebay ones have gone. Also flint rather than rhyolite which is clearly discernable. One easy to nap the other hard. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIG-NATIV...vip=true&rt=nc