Need translation for an Indian torador with heavy Barrel

Cerjak · 7th September 2015, 03:01 PM

Dear Richard,

Thank you for your comment ,by the way the top torador in my pictures still have his pan cover.
best

Cerjak

rickystl · 7th September 2015, 03:57 PM

Hi Cerjak.
The dimensions, weight, and caliber of the barrel would seem to put this in wall gun territory. And the design of the barrel, especially the breech area shows an Indian made barrel. Many of the wall guns tended to have slightly shorter, but heavier barrels. And this one seems to be a good example.

Pan Covers: Yes, it appears some were made with covers, and others not. I don't understand why they would make a matchlock without one? Maybe something to do with the loading/firing procedure?
What I find curious is the pan covers were made of a very thin, almost flimsey piece of flat iron. Which probably accounts why so many covers are broke off and missing. You would think for all the work that went in to making the barrels that they would make the pan cover of a bit more robust material. Possibly they were made thin to have a somewhat flex to keep the pan cover still while loaded? But the actual lack of a pan cover is a mystery to me.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. Great looking long gun collection!!! I really like that Rasak!!
Rick.

rickystl · 7th September 2015, 04:06 PM

By the way, as long as we are on this subject............

There is a mark on the bottom breach area of my Torador barrel. Due to the location of this mark, I'm thinking it's possibly just a barrel maker's mark. Has anyone seen this mark? Maybe on a blade? Thanks.
Rick.

rickystl · 7th September 2015, 04:07 PM

WOOOPS.......forgot to post the pic.

Cerjak · 10th September 2015, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickystl

Hi Cerjak.
The dimensions, weight, and caliber of the barrel would seem to put this in wall gun territory. And the design of the barrel, especially the breech area shows an Indian made barrel. Many of the wall guns tended to have slightly shorter, but heavier barrels. And this one seems to be a good example.

Pan Covers: Yes, it appears some were made with covers, and others not. I don't understand why they would make a matchlock without one? Maybe something to do with the loading/firing procedure?
What I find curious is the pan covers were made of a very thin, almost flimsey piece of flat iron. Which probably accounts why so many covers are broke off and missing. You would think for all the work that went in to making the barrels that they would make the pan cover of a bit more robust material. Possibly they were made thin to have a somewhat flex to keep the pan cover still while loaded? But the actual lack of a pan cover is a mystery to me.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. Great looking long gun collection!!! I really like that Rasak!!
Rick.

Hi Rick
Thank you for your comment, by the way I have to say that it is always a pleasure to read your posts showing your amazing collection.
Best Cerjak

rickystl · 12th September 2015, 02:40 AM

Thanks Cerjack. Yes, a lot of Ethno guns. LOL
And, by the way, the Sind rifle "shoots" as good as it looks!!

Rick.

Pukka Bundook · 12th September 2015, 04:03 AM

Rick,

Can you give us some details on this?, maybe in another thread so we don't Hijack this one. :-)

Richard.

rickystl · 17th September 2015, 06:02 PM

Hi Richard. Which item are you requesting ?
Rick.

Pukka Bundook · 18th September 2015, 04:26 AM

Rick,
I got the impression you had fired the Sind matchlock, and wondered how it went.......as in, details?

Maybe I mistook you though!!

R.

7th September 2015, 03:01 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Dear Richard, Thank you for your comment ,by the way the top torador in my pictures still have his pan cover. best Cerjak Attached Images

7th September 2015, 04:07 PM	#4
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	WOOOPS.......forgot to post the pic. Attached Images

7th September 2015, 03:57 PM	#2
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Cerjak. The dimensions, weight, and caliber of the barrel would seem to put this in wall gun territory. And the design of the barrel, especially the breech area shows an Indian made barrel. Many of the wall guns tended to have slightly shorter, but heavier barrels. And this one seems to be a good example. Pan Covers: Yes, it appears some were made with covers, and others not. I don't understand why they would make a matchlock without one? Maybe something to do with the loading/firing procedure? What I find curious is the pan covers were made of a very thin, almost flimsey piece of flat iron. Which probably accounts why so many covers are broke off and missing. You would think for all the work that went in to making the barrels that they would make the pan cover of a bit more robust material. Possibly they were made thin to have a somewhat flex to keep the pan cover still while loaded? But the actual lack of a pan cover is a mystery to me. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Great looking long gun collection!!! I really like that Rasak!! Rick.

7th September 2015, 04:06 PM	#3
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	By the way, as long as we are on this subject............ There is a mark on the bottom breach area of my Torador barrel. Due to the location of this mark, I'm thinking it's possibly just a barrel maker's mark. Has anyone seen this mark? Maybe on a blade? Thanks. Rick.

12th September 2015, 02:40 AM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Thanks Cerjack. Yes, a lot of Ethno guns. LOL And, by the way, the Sind rifle "shoots" as good as it looks!! Rick.

12th September 2015, 04:03 AM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Rick, Can you give us some details on this?, maybe in another thread so we don't Hijack this one. :-) Richard.

17th September 2015, 06:02 PM	#8
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Richard. Which item are you requesting ? Rick.

18th September 2015, 04:26 AM	#9
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Rick, I got the impression you had fired the Sind matchlock, and wondered how it went.......as in, details? Maybe I mistook you though!! R.