a sail guard left hand dagger

fernando · 4th September 2015, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ulfberth

Thank Fernando,

Indeed it has no stamps on the ricasso, but it has a stamp of a sea horse about 15mm bellow the fuller.

kind regards

Ulfberth

Can we have a close up picture ?

ulfberth · 4th September 2015, 02:09 PM

Thanks Jim

Here is one Fernando, but if you want a more clear pic you will have to ask Casey now

kind regards

u

M ELEY · 5th September 2015, 03:58 AM

I also don't remember seeing this beauty! Glad Fernando posted on it, bringing it back to life! A superb example. I've seen swords with the so-called 'crab-claw' construction for catching an opponent's blade, but never on a parrying dagger before. Makes sense. So...is it a main gauche?

fernando · 5th September 2015, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY

... So...is it a main gauche?

For the French, yes. Daga de mano izquierda for the Spanish, agada de mão esquerda for the Portuguese.
As this one has its guard in the form of a sail, the Spaniards would call it daga de vela de mano izquierda

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CSinTX · 23rd September 2015, 04:02 AM

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts on this piece. It really is great. I took some additional pictures this afternoon. Feel free to discuss. As you can see from the guard, it appears the blade was likely replaced during it's working life.

CSinTX · 23rd September 2015, 04:04 AM

Blade mark.

fernando · 23rd September 2015, 05:55 PM

Ah ... now we have to distinct provenances; and may i guess the blade might have been shortened from a sword (rapier?) one, both due to its unusual (?) tapering and mainly due to the advanced position of the makers mark

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A mark that doesn't appear to be Spanish; none of the Toledo smith marks in the Palomar chart seem to have such symbol and those are usually puntched inside an estucheon. Didn't find it in Wallace Collection book, either. Maybe Italian ?

4th September 2015, 02:09 PM	#2
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 412	Thanks Jim Here is one Fernando, but if you want a more clear pic you will have to ask Casey now kind regards u Attached Images

23rd September 2015, 04:02 AM	#5
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 233	Thanks to everyone for their thoughts on this piece. It really is great. I took some additional pictures this afternoon. Feel free to discuss. As you can see from the guard, it appears the blade was likely replaced during it's working life. Attached Images

23rd September 2015, 04:04 AM	#6
CSinTX Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 233	Blade mark. Attached Images

5th September 2015, 03:58 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	I also don't remember seeing this beauty! Glad Fernando posted on it, bringing it back to life! A superb example. I've seen swords with the so-called 'crab-claw' construction for catching an opponent's blade, but never on a parrying dagger before. Makes sense. So...is it a main gauche?

23rd September 2015, 05:55 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Ah ... now we have to distinct provenances; and may i guess the blade might have been shortened from a sword (rapier?) one, both due to its unusual (?) tapering and mainly due to the advanced position of the makers mark . A mark that doesn't appear to be Spanish; none of the Toledo smith marks in the Palomar chart seem to have such symbol and those are usually puntched inside an estucheon. Didn't find it in Wallace Collection book, either. Maybe Italian ?