MOST DESIRED OCEANIC WAR CLUBS 4: SAMOA

VANDOO · 3rd September 2015, 06:24 PM

A FEW MORE
#1. , #2., & #3. THE LAST CLUB IN THE SET OF 6 ,SEE FIRST 5 IN ABOVE POST. IT IS HEAVY AND 4 SIDED WITH THE SAME CARVINGS ON ALL SIDES. 35 INCHES LONG
#4., & #5. ANOTHER UNUSUAL FORM OF SAMOAN CLUB. 26.5 INCHES LONG.
#6., & #7. 25 X 6 INCHES SAMOAN WITH BONE INLAY
# 8. 33 INCH SAMOA CLUB
#9. & #10. 43 INCH SAMOAN SPEAR STAFF FORM CLUB/SPEAR
# 11. 22 INCH NIFO OTI WOOD CLUB

VANDOO · 2nd September 2016, 11:21 PM

#1.,#2. & #3. A TYPE OF SAMOAN POLE CLUB WITH SEVERAL SIDES
RATHER THAN ROUND LIKE THOSE FROM FIJI AND TONGA, 28.5 INCHES LONG.

#4., #5, #6. & #7. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE ABOVE CLUB FORM. 19TH
CENTURY, 36 INCHES LONG. THIS TYPE OF CLUB HAS BEEN REFEREED TO AS
FACETED.
#8., #9., #10., & #11. SAMOAN DESCRIBED AS, FA ALAUTALINGA ,29.5
INCHES LONG.
#12. WESTERN SAMOAN CLUB 1942 SMALLER BUT SIMILAR TO THE #1 CLUB.

drac2k · 25th September 2016, 08:39 PM

As per your request; it measures 31"long and is quite heavy for it's size.You advised me that it was Samoan, probably 1920's, 1930's and that the letters indicated Missionary influence.Any chance you know what it spells out or are they just random?

VANDOO · 25th September 2016, 09:02 PM

THANKS FOR ADDING THIS EXAMPLE.

I SUSPECT THIS WRITING IS RANDOM AS FAR AS WE CAN DETERMINE. IT MAY HAVE HAD SOME MEANING TO THE ONE WHO WROTE IT BUT IT APPEARS IT IS NOT WRITTEN IN PROPER ENGLISH SEQUENCE OR ALL LETTERS RIGHT SIDE UP. IT MAY JUST BE HIM SHOWING HIS KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY TO MAKE LETTERS NO DOUBT HIS FAVORITE ONES OR THE ONES HE COULD DO BEST. GIVEN ALL THAT HE WRITES MUCH BETTER ENGLISH THAN I COULD WRITE IN SAMOAN.

drac2k · 26th September 2016, 01:02 AM

My pleasure ; I'm honored that you wanted it in your post.

VANDOO · 24th December 2016, 08:11 PM

#1. & #2. SAMOAN FANCY CEREMONIAL DANCE CLUB, 24 IN X 6.75 INCH. WIDE
#3. SAMOAN NIFO OTI 37 INCHES LONG
#4., #5. & #6. NIFO OTI, 40 IN. LONG CIRC. 19TH CENTURY
#7. SAMOAN FORM SAID TO BE TONGAN 62 CM. LONG
#8. & #9. UNUSUAL SAMOAN NIFO OTI WITH ROWS OF TEETH ON BOTH SIDES 90 CM. LONG
#10. SAMOA 1800'S CLUB 24 LONG X 10.5 INCHES WIDE
#11. SAMOA , 29 INCHES LONG, FAALAUTALINGA ?
#12. PICTURE AT SAMOAN MUSEUM

VANDOO · 24th December 2016, 08:24 PM

A FEW MORE FROM SAMOA TO FINISH UP THE YEAR, NOT MUCH INFORMATION
#8 IS SAID TO BE SAMOAN WITH TONGAN CARVING STYLE AND DESIGN BUT WITH ( WHITE LIME INLAY COMMON FOR SAMOA BUT NOT TONGA)

3rd September 2015, 06:24 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE #1. , #2., & #3. THE LAST CLUB IN THE SET OF 6 ,SEE FIRST 5 IN ABOVE POST. IT IS HEAVY AND 4 SIDED WITH THE SAME CARVINGS ON ALL SIDES. 35 INCHES LONG #4., & #5. ANOTHER UNUSUAL FORM OF SAMOAN CLUB. 26.5 INCHES LONG. #6., & #7. 25 X 6 INCHES SAMOAN WITH BONE INLAY # 8. 33 INCH SAMOA CLUB #9. & #10. 43 INCH SAMOAN SPEAR STAFF FORM CLUB/SPEAR # 11. 22 INCH NIFO OTI WOOD CLUB Attached Images

2nd September 2016, 11:21 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	#1.,#2. & #3. A TYPE OF SAMOAN POLE CLUB WITH SEVERAL SIDES RATHER THAN ROUND LIKE THOSE FROM FIJI AND TONGA, 28.5 INCHES LONG. #4., #5, #6. & #7. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE ABOVE CLUB FORM. 19TH CENTURY, 36 INCHES LONG. THIS TYPE OF CLUB HAS BEEN REFEREED TO AS FACETED. #8., #9., #10., & #11. SAMOAN DESCRIBED AS, FA ALAUTALINGA ,29.5 INCHES LONG. #12. WESTERN SAMOAN CLUB 1942 SMALLER BUT SIMILAR TO THE #1 CLUB. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 2nd September 2016 at 11:45 PM.

25th September 2016, 08:39 PM	#3
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	As per your request; it measures 31"long and is quite heavy for it's size.You advised me that it was Samoan, probably 1920's, 1930's and that the letters indicated Missionary influence.Any chance you know what it spells out or are they just random? Attached Images

25th September 2016, 09:02 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THANKS FOR ADDING THIS EXAMPLE. I SUSPECT THIS WRITING IS RANDOM AS FAR AS WE CAN DETERMINE. IT MAY HAVE HAD SOME MEANING TO THE ONE WHO WROTE IT BUT IT APPEARS IT IS NOT WRITTEN IN PROPER ENGLISH SEQUENCE OR ALL LETTERS RIGHT SIDE UP. IT MAY JUST BE HIM SHOWING HIS KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY TO MAKE LETTERS NO DOUBT HIS FAVORITE ONES OR THE ONES HE COULD DO BEST. GIVEN ALL THAT HE WRITES MUCH BETTER ENGLISH THAN I COULD WRITE IN SAMOAN. Last edited by VANDOO; 26th September 2016 at 02:36 PM.

26th September 2016, 01:02 AM	#5
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	My pleasure ; I'm honored that you wanted it in your post.

24th December 2016, 08:11 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	#1. & #2. SAMOAN FANCY CEREMONIAL DANCE CLUB, 24 IN X 6.75 INCH. WIDE #3. SAMOAN NIFO OTI 37 INCHES LONG #4., #5. & #6. NIFO OTI, 40 IN. LONG CIRC. 19TH CENTURY #7. SAMOAN FORM SAID TO BE TONGAN 62 CM. LONG #8. & #9. UNUSUAL SAMOAN NIFO OTI WITH ROWS OF TEETH ON BOTH SIDES 90 CM. LONG #10. SAMOA 1800'S CLUB 24 LONG X 10.5 INCHES WIDE #11. SAMOA , 29 INCHES LONG, FAALAUTALINGA ? #12. PICTURE AT SAMOAN MUSEUM Attached Images

24th December 2016, 08:24 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE FROM SAMOA TO FINISH UP THE YEAR, NOT MUCH INFORMATION #8 IS SAID TO BE SAMOAN WITH TONGAN CARVING STYLE AND DESIGN BUT WITH ( WHITE LIME INLAY COMMON FOR SAMOA BUT NOT TONGA) Attached Images