Please help with translation from Farsi.

mahratt · 27th August 2015, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

little details on our big boy's toys like a description, provenance, size, composition, weight etc.

This powder measure was purchased in the United Arab Emirates. Seller - an Afghan, who brought it from Afghanistan. Dimensions: length - 16cm, diameter - 2 cm. Material - iron.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 27th August 2015, 07:12 PM

Salaams Mahratt ~This is a fine item and in particular with its multi sided shape and script this is a rare piece.
Please See; https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...17_century.jpg for a similar 17th Century Ottoman powder measure.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

kronckew · 27th August 2015, 07:17 PM

yes, thanks for fleshing this out. it's a nice piece and deserves it's place in our histories. if only they could talk to us....

mahratt · 27th August 2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Mahratt ~This is a fine item and in particular with its multi sided shape and script this is a rare piece.
Please See; https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...17_century.jpg for a similar 17th Century Ottoman powder measure.
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Thank you, Ibrahiim.

I've seen this picture before. I think that not Ottoman and Persian powder measure.

Although, of course, I could be wrong. But detail, which is a red circle - not typical of Ottoman items. But often found in Persian and Afghan items.

Regards,
Dmitriy.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 27th August 2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mahratt

Thank you, Ibrahiim.

I've seen this picture before. I think that not Ottoman and Persian powder measure.

Although, of course, I could be wrong. But detail, which is a red circle - not typical of Ottoman items. But often found in Persian and Afghan items.

Regards,
Dmitriy.

Salaams...The provenance shown seems right ...and the source is respectable I think... See http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O7...asure-unknown/ for other examples where there is a crown shaped circle on top of the two top flasks...I see no reason why Ottoman loading items would not end up in Persian Afghan hands ... or if copies were made?

However, having said that...I think you are correct... Persian. Heres another reference on a sold Safavid item https://auctionata.com/intl/o/41627/...op/islamic-art

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

27th August 2015, 07:12 PM	#2
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	Salaams Mahratt ~This is a fine item and in particular with its multi sided shape and script this is a rare piece. Please See; https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...17_century.jpg for a similar 17th Century Ottoman powder measure. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

27th August 2015, 07:17 PM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	yes, thanks for fleshing this out. it's a nice piece and deserves it's place in our histories. if only they could talk to us....