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VANDOO · 22nd August 2015, 09:25 PM

A VERY NICE ATTRACTIVE CLUB TIM.

ALSO GREAT TO SEE A PICTURE OF A TRIBESMAN WITH ONE.
FIERCEVIPER THANKS FOR THE PICTURES OF THE SPEAR WITH THE NOTCHES THE SPEAR POINT AND PROTRUSIONS REMINDS ME OF A FORM USED BY THE KAXINAWA TRIBE AKA. HUNI KUIN FROM BRAZIL.

#1 AND #2. A CEREMONIAL CLUB OR STAFF FROM THE AMAZON 34.5 IN. LONG X 1.5 IN DIAMETER. IT HAS SIMILAR NOTCHES BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT GROUP IT COMES FROM OR OF ITS USE.

#3 thru #6 A SHORT DANCE SPEAR KAXINAWA TRIBE 26.5 IN. LONG

fireiceviper · 27th August 2015, 02:21 AM

@Tim Simmons

Wow like it it! but i like the small melanesian club (new caeldonian?) more! very nice!

@Vandoo

Thanks Vandoo, very similar indeed! i'm gonna research that region more,thank you! I also found another angle I came across some pictures (of a similar style spear with the same type of feather work as mine from the surinam region (its a stock photo site so i can't copy it or post it here).

The small dance spear I've seen before but i have some doubts about it...looks a little bit crude in comparison to the rest, but i could be wrong!

VANDOO · 27th August 2015, 06:46 PM

THE SMALL DANCE SPEAR IS FAIRLY RECENT AND WAS MADE USING MODERN TOOLS POSSIBLY FOR TRIBAL CEREMONIES BUT LIKELY FOR SALE TO TOURISTS. ITS ACTUALLY WELL MADE FOR A SOUVENIR AND DOES HAVE SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL TRIBAL DESIGN I ASSOCIATE WITH THE KAXINAWA TRIBE. THERE IS A PICTURE OF SOME MORE OF THE TRIBES PEOPLE AND WEAPONS EARLIER IN THIS POST. I COULD BE WRONG AS OTHER TRIBES MAY MAKE THIS FORM OF SPEAR BUT SO FAR THE ONLY EXAMPLES I HAVE SEEN WERE FROM THIS TRIBE, SO ITS A GOOD PLACE TO START LOOKING.

fireiceviper · 21st October 2015, 07:38 PM

I know it's not really a weapon, but i thought i'd share

I believe its from the Guyana/Surinam Area.. ( I also found another bow and arrow set, but haven't had time for pictures yet, but trust me its nice with feathers

)

Houkura · 1st February 2016, 02:48 PM

Hi Folks. First post here. I found this site researching a club I purchased several months ago and figured now that I am enrolled I would share some photos of the club. From the Smithsonian website I found the club is what they call a "Shipibo Sword Club". It's quite heavy and has very sharp edges. Could cut through about anything. Very nice patina. The unusual aspect is where there is usually a sort of woven "rattan" covering on the handle this club has a native made cotton cover-probably a replacement but still pretty early. There is an old storage label from a "Bekins Moving" (an American moving company) in Albuquerque and the seller said it was in a small museum in New Mexico in the 50's. I collect Polynesian clubs and objects and a little African so this is out of my wheelhouse but it was so cheap and looked quite nice so I pulled the trigger. Any info on this club welcome. I've really enjoyed this thread and others-thanks... Sorry the photos are a little dark! I'll post one first to see if I'm doing it right...

Houkura · 1st February 2016, 04:15 PM

So-that was my first post here and I failed on the photo upload of course. Here are photos of the club... Sorry they are a bit dark-will do better next time. Incremental improvements...

Sajen · 2nd February 2016, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houkura

So-that was my first post here and I failed on the photo upload of course. Here are photos of the club... Sorry they are a bit dark-will do better next time. Incremental improvements...

Welcome to the forum! Nice club.

Regards,
Detlef

Tim Simmons · 1st February 2016, 05:45 PM

Would like to see it but no pics so far.

kronckew · 2nd February 2016, 07:41 AM

i see the pics. nice club. i like it...

21st October 2015, 07:38 PM	#4
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	I know it's not really a weapon, but i thought i'd share I believe its from the Guyana/Surinam Area.. ( I also found another bow and arrow set, but haven't had time for pictures yet, but trust me its nice with feathers ) Attached Images

1st February 2016, 02:48 PM	#5
Houkura Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 5	Shipibo Hi Folks. First post here. I found this site researching a club I purchased several months ago and figured now that I am enrolled I would share some photos of the club. From the Smithsonian website I found the club is what they call a "Shipibo Sword Club". It's quite heavy and has very sharp edges. Could cut through about anything. Very nice patina. The unusual aspect is where there is usually a sort of woven "rattan" covering on the handle this club has a native made cotton cover-probably a replacement but still pretty early. There is an old storage label from a "Bekins Moving" (an American moving company) in Albuquerque and the seller said it was in a small museum in New Mexico in the 50's. I collect Polynesian clubs and objects and a little African so this is out of my wheelhouse but it was so cheap and looked quite nice so I pulled the trigger. Any info on this club welcome. I've really enjoyed this thread and others-thanks... Sorry the photos are a little dark! I'll post one first to see if I'm doing it right...

22nd August 2015, 09:25 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY NICE ATTRACTIVE CLUB TIM. ALSO GREAT TO SEE A PICTURE OF A TRIBESMAN WITH ONE. FIERCEVIPER THANKS FOR THE PICTURES OF THE SPEAR WITH THE NOTCHES THE SPEAR POINT AND PROTRUSIONS REMINDS ME OF A FORM USED BY THE KAXINAWA TRIBE AKA. HUNI KUIN FROM BRAZIL. #1 AND #2. A CEREMONIAL CLUB OR STAFF FROM THE AMAZON 34.5 IN. LONG X 1.5 IN DIAMETER. IT HAS SIMILAR NOTCHES BUT I AM NOT SURE WHAT GROUP IT COMES FROM OR OF ITS USE. #3 thru #6 A SHORT DANCE SPEAR KAXINAWA TRIBE 26.5 IN. LONG Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 22nd August 2015 at 09:45 PM.

27th August 2015, 02:21 AM	#2
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	@Tim Simmons Wow like it it! but i like the small melanesian club (new caeldonian?) more! very nice! @Vandoo Thanks Vandoo, very similar indeed! i'm gonna research that region more,thank you! I also found another angle I came across some pictures (of a similar style spear with the same type of feather work as mine from the surinam region (its a stock photo site so i can't copy it or post it here). The small dance spear I've seen before but i have some doubts about it...looks a little bit crude in comparison to the rest, but i could be wrong!

27th August 2015, 06:46 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE SMALL DANCE SPEAR IS FAIRLY RECENT AND WAS MADE USING MODERN TOOLS POSSIBLY FOR TRIBAL CEREMONIES BUT LIKELY FOR SALE TO TOURISTS. ITS ACTUALLY WELL MADE FOR A SOUVENIR AND DOES HAVE SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL TRIBAL DESIGN I ASSOCIATE WITH THE KAXINAWA TRIBE. THERE IS A PICTURE OF SOME MORE OF THE TRIBES PEOPLE AND WEAPONS EARLIER IN THIS POST. I COULD BE WRONG AS OTHER TRIBES MAY MAKE THIS FORM OF SPEAR BUT SO FAR THE ONLY EXAMPLES I HAVE SEEN WERE FROM THIS TRIBE, SO ITS A GOOD PLACE TO START LOOKING.

1st February 2016, 04:15 PM	#6
Houkura Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 5	Shipibo Club So-that was my first post here and I failed on the photo upload of course. Here are photos of the club... Sorry they are a bit dark-will do better next time. Incremental improvements... Attached Images

1st February 2016, 05:45 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	Would like to see it but no pics so far.

2nd February 2016, 07:41 AM	#9
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,235	i see the pics. nice club. i like it...