Rapa nui paoa?

Rick · 20th August 2015, 10:05 PM

I agree, Jim .
Barry, you're a forum treasure .

fireiceviper · 27th August 2015, 02:06 AM

These clubs are all made for tourists, as far as i know there was only the staff (multiple forms) and the small club (like a maori mere).

It would also be unlikely that this is some ancient style with no records and no known specimens; all but forgotten except for the few carvers carving for the tourist trade..

I double checked my books on the subject and it is not mentioned.

But i like the dark one, it is nicely carved.

Edit:: just noticed it look like a "pirate sword" i think this is where they got their inspiration

VANDOO · 27th August 2015, 07:13 PM

CONJECTURE AHEAD.
WE OFTEN DISMISS ALL THESE ITEMS AS JUNK MADE FOR TOURISTS. BUT WHEN CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND THE SITUATION MANY OF THESE TRIBAL PEOPLE WERE IN, THERE IS OFTEN MORE TO IT. THE FIRST SPANISH WHO ARRIVED ON EASTER ISLAND WERE NOT MUCH INTERESTED IN SAVAGES OR THEIR ARTIFACTS ONLY GOLD OR TREASURE. THE ISLANDERS WERE LATER TAKEN AS SLAVES TO WORK IN MINES ON THE MAINLAND. THE TRIBE AND SOCIETY WAS ALL BUT DESTROYED AND COMPLETELY CHANGED. SOME FOUND THEIR WAY BACK OR PERHAPS SOME WERE NOT ENSLAVED AND REMAINED.

LATER THE EXPLORERS AND SCIENTISTS CAME AND WERE INTERESTED IN COLLECTING ARTIFACTS. SOMEWHERE IN THIS PERIOD IS LIKELY WHEN THE LOCALS STARTED MAKING NEW TRADITIONAL OBJECTS AND PERHAPS SOMETHING LIKE THIS SMALL STRANGE CLUB. THIS PARTICULAR CLUB DOES APPEAR TO INCORPORATE TRADITIONAL EASTER ISLAND ART AS WELL AS PERHAPS ADDING A BLADE SHAPE FROM SPANISH INFLUENCE. AT ANY RATE THE ARTIST WHO MADE THE FIRST ONE SHOWED TALENT AND IMAGINATION AND HOPEFULLY WAS ABLE TO FEED HIS FAMILY FOR HIS EFFORTS.
SO PERHAPS WE CAN CLASSIFY SUCH ITEMS AS POST CONTACT ETHNOGRAPHIC OBJECTS. AFTER ALL THEY DO SERVE A PURPOSE FOR THE TRIBE MAINLY TRADE GOODS OR TODAY MOSTLY CASH FOR THE TRIBE.

fireiceviper · 7th February 2018, 09:26 PM

Guess what i found

27th August 2015, 02:06 AM	#2
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	These clubs are all made for tourists, as far as i know there was only the staff (multiple forms) and the small club (like a maori mere). It would also be unlikely that this is some ancient style with no records and no known specimens; all but forgotten except for the few carvers carving for the tourist trade.. I double checked my books on the subject and it is not mentioned. But i like the dark one, it is nicely carved. Edit:: just noticed it look like a "pirate sword" i think this is where they got their inspiration Last edited by fireiceviper; 27th August 2015 at 06:06 PM.

7th February 2018, 09:26 PM	#4
fireiceviper Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 87	Guess what i found Attached Images

20th August 2015, 10:05 PM	#1
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	I agree, Jim . Barry, you're a forum treasure .

27th August 2015, 07:13 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	CONJECTURE AHEAD. WE OFTEN DISMISS ALL THESE ITEMS AS JUNK MADE FOR TOURISTS. BUT WHEN CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND THE SITUATION MANY OF THESE TRIBAL PEOPLE WERE IN, THERE IS OFTEN MORE TO IT. THE FIRST SPANISH WHO ARRIVED ON EASTER ISLAND WERE NOT MUCH INTERESTED IN SAVAGES OR THEIR ARTIFACTS ONLY GOLD OR TREASURE. THE ISLANDERS WERE LATER TAKEN AS SLAVES TO WORK IN MINES ON THE MAINLAND. THE TRIBE AND SOCIETY WAS ALL BUT DESTROYED AND COMPLETELY CHANGED. SOME FOUND THEIR WAY BACK OR PERHAPS SOME WERE NOT ENSLAVED AND REMAINED. LATER THE EXPLORERS AND SCIENTISTS CAME AND WERE INTERESTED IN COLLECTING ARTIFACTS. SOMEWHERE IN THIS PERIOD IS LIKELY WHEN THE LOCALS STARTED MAKING NEW TRADITIONAL OBJECTS AND PERHAPS SOMETHING LIKE THIS SMALL STRANGE CLUB. THIS PARTICULAR CLUB DOES APPEAR TO INCORPORATE TRADITIONAL EASTER ISLAND ART AS WELL AS PERHAPS ADDING A BLADE SHAPE FROM SPANISH INFLUENCE. AT ANY RATE THE ARTIST WHO MADE THE FIRST ONE SHOWED TALENT AND IMAGINATION AND HOPEFULLY WAS ABLE TO FEED HIS FAMILY FOR HIS EFFORTS. SO PERHAPS WE CAN CLASSIFY SUCH ITEMS AS POST CONTACT ETHNOGRAPHIC OBJECTS. AFTER ALL THEY DO SERVE A PURPOSE FOR THE TRIBE MAINLY TRADE GOODS OR TODAY MOSTLY CASH FOR THE TRIBE.