Javanese keris info

Pusaka · 26th December 2005, 08:12 PM

Dose anyone know what a Javanese Lei Shan Dao keris is, I really have no idea about this one!

nechesh · 27th December 2005, 12:20 AM

Well Pusaka, i found this on line on a sight that was mostly in Russian (i think) posted by a guy named David Shen:
The Seminar on Nei Gong. Nei Gong is a very general name just used for easiness. There are many Nei Gong, we practice Lei Shan Dao - thunder and lightening path - Daoist alchemy is one of the languages that describe the internal process of transformation of Jing Qi Shen. Lei shan Dao - the thunder lightening path - that indian and tibetan learn from China. Nowadays only name is left. Very few real masters. Mo Pai is one of the schools of the Lei Shan Dao. I learn 6 different Schools of Lei Shan Dao, Mo Pai is one of them.
The words sound Chinese to me so my guess is that if someone used the words in association with keris it was some kind of modern martial arts invention. I doubt there is any association to real keris culture, but then, maybe someone out there knows different.

Pusaka · 27th December 2005, 12:48 AM

Hmmm….Interesting I thought it was Chinese too, dose not sound very Indonesian to me. From what you found it suggests that Lei Shan Dao is some sort of internal Qi gong practice.
Maybe there is some connection to keris, if there is I don’t know it.

Lei Shen Dao · 28th December 2005, 01:20 AM

Hi

Lei Shen Dao has nothing to do with the Indo language, keris etc.

It is a part of the Daoist Neidan traditions (and of cource my member name

).

So, there is no such thing as a "Leishen Dao Keris"

I hope that helped.

nechesh · 28th December 2005, 01:30 AM

Thanks L.S.D. (oh....that's cool!

) i didn't think so.

Pusaka · 28th December 2005, 05:33 PM

Thanks L.S.D for that, I also found a reference in the arcives of this forum which briefly mentions it

“i keep seeing the keris and other kerises with wos wutah pamor in this site and i find many differencies in patterns. Can anybody enlighten me about it?
For example the Javanese keris of Lei Shan Dao is quite different that the one i post here...” (Jor-el)

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=Shan

Lei Shen Dao · 28th December 2005, 05:58 PM

Hi Pusaka

Lol

, Jor El is a friend of mine and some months ago we posted our kerisses to take some infos.

He made a comment about my keris when he wrote:
“i keep seeing the keris and other kerises with wos wutah pamor in this site and i find many differencies in patterns. Can anybody enlighten me about it?
For example the Javanese keris of Lei Shan Dao is quite different that the one i post here...” (Jor-el)

So now the puzzle

is solved.

Take care

26th December 2005, 08:12 PM	#1
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	Javanese keris info Dose anyone know what a Javanese Lei Shan Dao keris is, I really have no idea about this one!

27th December 2005, 12:20 AM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Well Pusaka, i found this on line on a sight that was mostly in Russian (i think) posted by a guy named David Shen: The Seminar on Nei Gong. Nei Gong is a very general name just used for easiness. There are many Nei Gong, we practice Lei Shan Dao - thunder and lightening path - Daoist alchemy is one of the languages that describe the internal process of transformation of Jing Qi Shen. Lei shan Dao - the thunder lightening path - that indian and tibetan learn from China. Nowadays only name is left. Very few real masters. Mo Pai is one of the schools of the Lei Shan Dao. I learn 6 different Schools of Lei Shan Dao, Mo Pai is one of them. The words sound Chinese to me so my guess is that if someone used the words in association with keris it was some kind of modern martial arts invention. I doubt there is any association to real keris culture, but then, maybe someone out there knows different.

27th December 2005, 12:48 AM	#3
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	Hmmm….Interesting I thought it was Chinese too, dose not sound very Indonesian to me. From what you found it suggests that Lei Shan Dao is some sort of internal Qi gong practice. Maybe there is some connection to keris, if there is I don’t know it.

28th December 2005, 01:20 AM	#4
Lei Shen Dao Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 43	Hi Lei Shen Dao has nothing to do with the Indo language, keris etc. It is a part of the Daoist Neidan traditions (and of cource my member name ). So, there is no such thing as a "Leishen Dao Keris" I hope that helped.

28th December 2005, 01:30 AM	#5
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Thanks L.S.D. (oh....that's cool! ) i didn't think so.

28th December 2005, 05:33 PM	#6
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	Thanks L.S.D for that, I also found a reference in the arcives of this forum which briefly mentions it “i keep seeing the keris and other kerises with wos wutah pamor in this site and i find many differencies in patterns. Can anybody enlighten me about it? For example the Javanese keris of Lei Shan Dao is quite different that the one i post here...” (Jor-el) http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=Shan

28th December 2005, 05:58 PM	#7
Lei Shen Dao Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 43	Hi Pusaka Lol , Jor El is a friend of mine and some months ago we posted our kerisses to take some infos. He made a comment about my keris when he wrote: “i keep seeing the keris and other kerises with wos wutah pamor in this site and i find many differencies in patterns. Can anybody enlighten me about it? For example the Javanese keris of Lei Shan Dao is quite different that the one i post here...” (Jor-el) So now the puzzle is solved. Take care