how do we classify a weapon tourist,origin,time period ?

Jens Nordlunde · 27th July 2015, 12:38 PM

I see what you mean, but the way the collectors are, old as new, I think it will be difficult to change.
The best to do when it comes to discussing weapons is, to provide good pictures, and a good description.

With the keris' like with the katars, there are so many variations that a classification will be more than difficult - unless it is a very rough one.

A. G. Maisey · 27th July 2015, 02:00 PM

Actually Jens, there is a very well established system of classification that is used with keris, but it is virtually useless unless one is able to adopt a Javanese frame of reference.

I do agree, that in discussion of weapons, or for that matter, any physical object, good photographs and relevant data are second only to the presence of the item under discussion.

Jens Nordlunde · 27th July 2015, 04:17 PM

Do you know the keris' Holstein shows in his book/s?
If not I can show them on the Keries forum.

27th July 2015, 12:38 PM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I see what you mean, but the way the collectors are, old as new, I think it will be difficult to change. The best to do when it comes to discussing weapons is, to provide good pictures, and a good description. With the keris' like with the katars, there are so many variations that a classification will be more than difficult - unless it is a very rough one.

27th July 2015, 02:00 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	Actually Jens, there is a very well established system of classification that is used with keris, but it is virtually useless unless one is able to adopt a Javanese frame of reference. I do agree, that in discussion of weapons, or for that matter, any physical object, good photographs and relevant data are second only to the presence of the item under discussion.

27th July 2015, 04:17 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Do you know the keris' Holstein shows in his book/s? If not I can show them on the Keries forum.