Keris Coteng

maxbliss888 · 24th July 2015, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

Yes Max, I fully understand your cultural point of view, mine was purely based on aesthetics and quality of craftsmanship, and it is just a personal opinion... Very interesting thread and reference anyway, many thanks!
Which are the 3 other Northern Malay states now part of Thailand?

Regards

Narathiwat, Pattani and Yala and parts of Songkhla. With the exception of Songkhla, many Thai classified the other 3 regions as dangerous owing to the occasional bombing.

I have just visited Songkhla and didn't see any Keris out in the open. One has to see via the collectors. I have spent months getting in contacts with many collectors and the photos above are almost the maximum I could see from the various friends and collectors. Owing to the assimilation into the Thai culture, not many of the tradition survive.

My guess is that the culture is still alive in some part of Indonesia and Malaysia. I went to Batam Indonesia and couldn't find any keris there too...

Nathaniel · 27th July 2015, 06:07 AM

Wow, maxbliss888, thank you for sharing these wonderful pictures and your experiences. This is a wonderful thread showing the diversity of Krit Malayeu often not seen outside of Thailand. What a treat! That is wonderful you have made these connections. Khorb Khun Krap

Nathaniel · 27th July 2015, 06:16 AM

Just something of interest...I took a picture of this Thai military insignia a few years back...I think the type pictured looks like a Tajong style.

maxbliss888 · 27th July 2015, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathaniel

Just something of interest...I took a picture of this Thai military insignia a few years back...I think the type pictured looks like a Tajong style.

Yes, it looks like the Tajong Keris. : )

Green · 27th July 2015, 04:09 PM

i come from kota baru kelantan malaysia which is just 40 km from sungai kolok town in the southern thailand province of narathiwat. My dialect, culture and food are almost identical to the southern malay thais but sadly with the separation of the 3 southern province of thailand with my state and country our culture has become further and further apart.

with regards to keris, the keris making culture and collection still survives in my state but there are very few good empus/pandai besi/keris makers around now and all they do is just making copies of existing styles particularly pandai saras and malelas.

maxbliss888 · 27th July 2015, 04:27 PM

Hi!

I come into contact with the Keris by accident as I was helping a Mainland China tourist girl translates when she wants to buy a Keris for her husband. It surprised me that a Mainland Chinese from so far away is keen on a Keris From SE Asia, which aroused my curiosity and later understanding on the keris.

Really love the keris as well as my weekly get together with fellow Thai collectors...

Henk · 27th July 2015, 06:21 PM

Green, I think if you could place some pictures of the keris made in your state, although they are copies and new ones, would satisfy our curiousity and give us an idea of the quality of these craftsmen.

27th July 2015, 06:16 AM	#3
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Just something of interest...I took a picture of this Thai military insignia a few years back...I think the type pictured looks like a Tajong style. Attached Images

27th July 2015, 04:09 PM	#5
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 323	i come from kota baru kelantan malaysia which is just 40 km from sungai kolok town in the southern thailand province of narathiwat. My dialect, culture and food are almost identical to the southern malay thais but sadly with the separation of the 3 southern province of thailand with my state and country our culture has become further and further apart. with regards to keris, the keris making culture and collection still survives in my state but there are very few good empus/pandai besi/keris makers around now and all they do is just making copies of existing styles particularly pandai saras and malelas. Last edited by Rick; 28th July 2015 at 03:13 AM. Reason: Offensive remark .

27th July 2015, 04:27 PM	#6
maxbliss888 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Bangkok Posts: 150	keris Hi! I come into contact with the Keris by accident as I was helping a Mainland China tourist girl translates when she wants to buy a Keris for her husband. It surprised me that a Mainland Chinese from so far away is keen on a Keris From SE Asia, which aroused my curiosity and later understanding on the keris. Really love the keris as well as my weekly get together with fellow Thai collectors...

27th July 2015, 06:07 AM	#2
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	Wow, maxbliss888, thank you for sharing these wonderful pictures and your experiences. This is a wonderful thread showing the diversity of Krit Malayeu often not seen outside of Thailand. What a treat! That is wonderful you have made these connections. Khorb Khun Krap

27th July 2015, 06:21 PM	#7
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Green, I think if you could place some pictures of the keris made in your state, although they are copies and new ones, would satisfy our curiousity and give us an idea of the quality of these craftsmen.