Features of this keris.

Alam Shah · 22nd December 2005, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Manolo

I have just started collecting and learning about keris, and one thing that is fascinating about them as objects is the level of craftsmanship that can go into their making. Ask a modern machine shop to make something of such complex shape, and with all modern CAM software and automated carving machinery few if any would be up to the challenge. New keris may -for the most part- not serve their original purpose, but as a craft, they do seem to undergo a renaissance. Look how far from their home they've gone, I'm in Canada!!
Manolo

My other modern piece, not a keris but using modern CAM equipment with precision and manual finishes.

Emanuel · 22nd December 2005, 04:22 AM

Well that shut me up Alam Shah, I'll have to watch my exhuberance and admiration for the manual craft.

Alam Shah · 22nd December 2005, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Manolo

Well that shut me up Alam Shah, I'll have to watch my exhuberance and admiration for the manual craft.

It's OK, we are all here to learn.

Battara · 22nd December 2005, 08:02 PM

I must say I like those new keris that are posted here. Nice work. The art is still alive and well to some degree.

Tim Simmons · 22nd December 2005, 09:00 PM

Please excuse me but I have to join in here. Some of you know that I make some decorative fittings amongst other art works. People often try to scare the pants off me by saying my skills will be replaced by a computer. This is rubbish! the computer guided tool does not do craft or art, it does machining. I am already finding customers dissatisfied with the finish and inflexability of CAD ? CAM ? what ever it is called, let alone the cost when prototypes are needed quickly. Sorry , as it is my livelihood I just had to rant.

Tim

Rick · 22nd December 2005, 10:00 PM

I think that it's an appropriate rant Tim .

No offense meant Alam Shah sincerely

; but when I look at your newly made auto(?) folder I get no feeling of 'soul' or artistry from it . All I see is laminated steels and faceting ; a very machine age piece .
Functional beauty yes .

Here is a site with many contemporary art knives .
http://www.miaminiceknife.com/

nechesh · 22nd December 2005, 10:44 PM

Wow! I can get a whole lotta keris for the price of one of them fancy modern art folders. I mean, they're nice, but.....

22nd December 2005, 04:22 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	I stand corrected Well that shut me up Alam Shah, I'll have to watch my exhuberance and admiration for the manual craft.

22nd December 2005, 08:02 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,346	I must say I like those new keris that are posted here. Nice work. The art is still alive and well to some degree.

22nd December 2005, 09:00 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Please excuse me but I have to join in here. Some of you know that I make some decorative fittings amongst other art works. People often try to scare the pants off me by saying my skills will be replaced by a computer. This is rubbish! the computer guided tool does not do craft or art, it does machining. I am already finding customers dissatisfied with the finish and inflexability of CAD ? CAM ? what ever it is called, let alone the cost when prototypes are needed quickly. Sorry , as it is my livelihood I just had to rant. Tim

22nd December 2005, 10:00 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I think that it's an appropriate rant Tim . No offense meant Alam Shah sincerely ; but when I look at your newly made auto(?) folder I get no feeling of 'soul' or artistry from it . All I see is laminated steels and faceting ; a very machine age piece . Functional beauty yes . Here is a site with many contemporary art knives . http://www.miaminiceknife.com/

22nd December 2005, 10:44 PM	#7
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Wow! I can get a whole lotta keris for the price of one of them fancy modern art folders. I mean, they're nice, but.....