A bugis(?) Keris for comment

Sajen · 14th June 2015, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I am curious to hear what defines this as a Bugis blade for people. What characteristics of the blade make it specifically Bugis for you?

I am not sure about the Bugis origin but the dapur and pamor let me think that it could be such a blade.

Regards,
Detlef

Rick · 14th June 2015, 06:19 PM

It has the aggressive lean of a Bugis type but the curve is not present that would make it, imo, a Sepokal form .
I'm not sure about the form of the blade in cross-section being particularly Buginese either .

Any chance this could be old Madura work ?
I'm just guessing by the way the pamor appears in the picture .

Rafngard · 15th June 2015, 05:11 AM

I would also be very happy to hear people's definition of what constitutes Bugis. I'm new, I want to learn.

Regarding the cross section, I could try to take a picture, if it would help.

Thanks,
Leif

A. G. Maisey · 16th June 2015, 09:07 AM

Very probably a dealer's marriage put together in Surabaya.

Wood is likely to be klengkeng.

David · 16th June 2015, 03:06 PM

Do you have any thoughts on the origins of the blade Alan?

A. G. Maisey · 17th June 2015, 06:19 AM

Jawa/Madura, pretty ordinary sort of thing, can't really give a classification because of lack of distinguishing features.

14th June 2015, 06:19 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	It has the aggressive lean of a Bugis type but the curve is not present that would make it, imo, a Sepokal form . I'm not sure about the form of the blade in cross-section being particularly Buginese either . Any chance this could be old Madura work ? I'm just guessing by the way the pamor appears in the picture .

15th June 2015, 05:11 AM	#3
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 354	I would also be very happy to hear people's definition of what constitutes Bugis. I'm new, I want to learn. Regarding the cross section, I could try to take a picture, if it would help. Thanks, Leif

16th June 2015, 09:07 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,044	Very probably a dealer's marriage put together in Surabaya. Wood is likely to be klengkeng.

16th June 2015, 03:06 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,228	Do you have any thoughts on the origins of the blade Alan?

17th June 2015, 06:19 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,044	Jawa/Madura, pretty ordinary sort of thing, can't really give a classification because of lack of distinguishing features.