A bugis(?) Keris for comment

BluErf · 14th June 2015, 05:40 AM

Thus keris looks like it was restored in Java, seeing the way the wood is sanded to remove all patina, and polished to a very high shine.

The hilt looks like a copy of a Sulawesi hilt, and the dark colour seems to be inline with Central Javanese aesthetics.

The blade could be Bugis Sulawesi, but I note the peksi is very long and relatively slim.

Sajen · 14th June 2015, 06:26 AM

Hi Blue,

I think that like Rafngard stated the sarung and hulu are recent work and worked on Java. And when you look closely to the peksi I think that the original one was broken and it's welded on an old javanese peksi.
That's my impression.

Regards,
Detlef

BluErf · 14th June 2015, 06:54 AM

Ah yes, indeed, the wood is not kemuning. Thanks for pointing out the welded peksi. It looks like the case.

David · 14th June 2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BluErf

Ah yes, indeed, the wood is not kemuning. Thanks for pointing out the welded peksi. It looks like the case.

Good pint on the pesi Detlef. I hadn't noticed that and it was one of the reasons i was seeing more Javanese influence in this blade and thought Sumatra might be an origin. But that opinion could be easily changed by those with more information.

Rafngard · 14th June 2015, 02:15 PM

Oh, I had wondered about the peksi, but forgot to mention it.

Old Bugis "restored" in Java in would make a lot of sense. I see a lot of modern Javanese stuff from the same seller.

Thank you all do much for your opinions.

Thanks,
Leif

David · 14th June 2015, 05:11 PM

I am curious to hear what defines this as a Bugis blade for people. What characteristics of the blade make it specifically Bugis for you?

Sajen · 14th June 2015, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I am curious to hear what defines this as a Bugis blade for people. What characteristics of the blade make it specifically Bugis for you?

I am not sure about the Bugis origin but the dapur and pamor let me think that it could be such a blade.

Regards,
Detlef

14th June 2015, 05:40 AM	#1
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Thus keris looks like it was restored in Java, seeing the way the wood is sanded to remove all patina, and polished to a very high shine. The hilt looks like a copy of a Sulawesi hilt, and the dark colour seems to be inline with Central Javanese aesthetics. The blade could be Bugis Sulawesi, but I note the peksi is very long and relatively slim.

14th June 2015, 06:26 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Hi Blue, I think that like Rafngard stated the sarung and hulu are recent work and worked on Java. And when you look closely to the peksi I think that the original one was broken and it's welded on an old javanese peksi. That's my impression. Regards, Detlef

14th June 2015, 06:54 AM	#3
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Ah yes, indeed, the wood is not kemuning. Thanks for pointing out the welded peksi. It looks like the case.

14th June 2015, 02:15 PM	#5
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 348	Oh, I had wondered about the peksi, but forgot to mention it. Old Bugis "restored" in Java in would make a lot of sense. I see a lot of modern Javanese stuff from the same seller. Thank you all do much for your opinions. Thanks, Leif

14th June 2015, 05:11 PM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,211	I am curious to hear what defines this as a Bugis blade for people. What characteristics of the blade make it specifically Bugis for you?