Another strange, non-textbook, parang

Tim Simmons · 17th December 2005, 07:31 PM

The decoration at the ends of both Michaels and my knife seem to share the same form. The decoration on my prang being a little more stylised. Tim

zelbone · 17th December 2005, 07:38 PM

Looks more like a Janap to me.

VVV · 17th December 2005, 08:48 PM

Thanks for the feedback!
Moro weapons are rare here in North Europe so the only Bangkungs I have seen are those in Cato's book with another kind of blade.
But I always wanted a Bangkung in my collection so...
What puzzles me a bit is the way the belt rope is attached to the scabbard.
I haven't seen that with f.i. Barongs?
It reminds me more of a Pakayun scabbard or other parangs I have seen in NW Borneo?

Nice parang Tim.
Interesting that the wood on your handle is also striped like the wood on my scabbard.

Zelbone, what's a Janap (except that it looks like my and Tim's blade)?

Michael

Tim Simmons · 17th December 2005, 08:59 PM

How right you are, now you point it out, the wood is the same. I have another knife with a handle of the same wood, which I also suspect is from Borneo. I did show it many years ago but the response was a little poor. I think there are too many similarities in these knives, not to have come from the same place. Tim

VVV · 17th December 2005, 09:04 PM

Tim,

Could you please post a picture of the other knife again?

Here is a picture of my Borneo Sadop that also has striped wood.

Michael

Tim Simmons · 17th December 2005, 09:25 PM

This knife is quite different from the parangs but again we see this distinctive wood. We need a botanist, especially when looking at island flora. This knife, I have cleaned but not heavily, I suspect was brought back to the UK after the Malay emergency

and brief war with Indonesia. Tim

VVV · 17th December 2005, 09:39 PM

Thanks,

My first impression was a parrot handle on this one.
Also the scabbard doesn't look like Borneo, more Batak/Sumatra like
some Kalasan.
The blade also looks a bit like a Batak Rawit.

Michael

17th December 2005, 08:59 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	How right you are, now you point it out, the wood is the same. I have another knife with a handle of the same wood, which I also suspect is from Borneo. I did show it many years ago but the response was a little poor. I think there are too many similarities in these knives, not to have come from the same place. Tim Last edited by Tim Simmons; 17th December 2005 at 09:31 PM.

17th December 2005, 09:04 PM	#5
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Tim, Could you please post a picture of the other knife again? Here is a picture of my Borneo Sadop that also has striped wood. Michael Attached Images

17th December 2005, 09:25 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	This knife is quite different from the parangs but again we see this distinctive wood. We need a botanist, especially when looking at island flora. This knife, I have cleaned but not heavily, I suspect was brought back to the UK after the Malay emergency and brief war with Indonesia. Tim Attached Images

17th December 2005, 07:31 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	The decoration at the ends of both Michaels and my knife seem to share the same form. The decoration on my prang being a little more stylised. Tim

17th December 2005, 07:38 PM	#2
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	Looks more like a Janap to me.

17th December 2005, 08:48 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks for the feedback! Moro weapons are rare here in North Europe so the only Bangkungs I have seen are those in Cato's book with another kind of blade. But I always wanted a Bangkung in my collection so... What puzzles me a bit is the way the belt rope is attached to the scabbard. I haven't seen that with f.i. Barongs? It reminds me more of a Pakayun scabbard or other parangs I have seen in NW Borneo? Nice parang Tim. Interesting that the wood on your handle is also striped like the wood on my scabbard. Zelbone, what's a Janap (except that it looks like my and Tim's blade)? Michael

17th December 2005, 09:39 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks, My first impression was a parrot handle on this one. Also the scabbard doesn't look like Borneo, more Batak/Sumatra like some Kalasan. The blade also looks a bit like a Batak Rawit. Michael