A kanta shield for restauration

Sajen · 26th May 2015, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Hi Detlef,

Yes very bulky and unusual design compared to other shown examples.
But I'm sure this one is from a very old collection, but can't recall from which.
If I find out I'll let you know.
I just wanted to show a very old kanta in a museum, also with some shortcomings, that belongs and is normal for the old pieces we collect. :-)

Kind regards,
Maurice

Hi Maurice,

when you look intent to my example you will see that the inlays also different from the other shown examples.
And for sure I don't want to "over"-restore this shield, it don't will get a new black paint on the surface and I think that I don't will add/restore the nassa shell inlays. But think that it will need to restore the most bone inlays and also some hair to give back the shield character.

Best regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 2nd June 2015, 01:52 PM

Have received some much better pictures from Robert to whom I let ship the shield. The pictures show that the surface is still black and they show also the very good patina of the shield. The triangular inlays seems to be indeed from bone.

VANDOO · 2nd June 2015, 07:34 PM

PERHAPS YOU CAN FIND AN 80 YEAR OLD MAN OR HORSE WITH LONG HAIR THEY WILL PART WITH. THEN YOU COULD TRULY SAY IT WAS A OLD REPLACEMENT.

RESTORED OR AS FOUND IS ALWAYS A HARD DECISION BUT A GOOD RESTORATION DOES MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD.

Sajen · 2nd June 2015, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

PERHAPS YOU CAN FIND AN 80 YEAR OLD MAN OR HORSE WITH LONG HAIR THEY WILL PART WITH. THEN YOU COULD TRULY SAY IT WAS A OLD REPLACEMENT.

RESTORED OR AS FOUND IS ALWAYS A HARD DECISION BUT A GOOD RESTORATION DOES MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD.

I certainly prefer the good restauration. Long as you can make all retrograde and you declare the piece in question as restored it's not a mistake IMVHO.

Regards,
Detlef

Sentrad · 2nd September 2015, 10:01 PM

IMO Kantas are much rarer than other shield types, so you are really lucky to get one. I had this luck some forty years ago at Galerie Lemaire in Amsterdam. Here are some pics:

Sajen · 3rd September 2015, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentrad

IMO Kantas are much rarer than other shield types, so you are really lucky to get one. I had this luck some forty years ago at Galerie Lemaire in Amsterdam. Here are some pics:

Hello Udo,

thank you. I look forward to your pictures when you have successful resized them.

Regards,
Detlef

VANDOO · 3rd September 2015, 08:35 AM

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WILL NEED QUITE A LOT OF BONE. HAVING SOME PIECES SHOULD HELP YOU DETERMINE WHAT SORT OF BONE WAS USED. USING LOGIC AND WHAT LITTLE I KNOW ABOUT THE AREA IT COULD BE PIG BONE, LARGE FISH BONE, SEA TURTLE BONE OR WATER BUFFALO OR COW. DUGGONE, WHALE AND PROPOSE MIGHT ALSO HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE. THE EASY WAY WOULD BE TO FIND ENOUGH BONE ALL OF ONE TYPE AND REPLACE ALL THE PIECES AT ONCE. GOOD LUCK YOU HAVE QUITE A PROJECT AHEAD.

2nd June 2015, 01:52 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,415	Have received some much better pictures from Robert to whom I let ship the shield. The pictures show that the surface is still black and they show also the very good patina of the shield. The triangular inlays seems to be indeed from bone. Attached Images

2nd September 2015, 10:01 PM	#5
Sentrad Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 20	Congrat Detlev, IMO Kantas are much rarer than other shield types, so you are really lucky to get one. I had this luck some forty years ago at Galerie Lemaire in Amsterdam. Here are some pics:

2nd June 2015, 07:34 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	PERHAPS YOU CAN FIND AN 80 YEAR OLD MAN OR HORSE WITH LONG HAIR THEY WILL PART WITH. THEN YOU COULD TRULY SAY IT WAS A OLD REPLACEMENT. RESTORED OR AS FOUND IS ALWAYS A HARD DECISION BUT A GOOD RESTORATION DOES MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD.

3rd September 2015, 08:35 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WILL NEED QUITE A LOT OF BONE. HAVING SOME PIECES SHOULD HELP YOU DETERMINE WHAT SORT OF BONE WAS USED. USING LOGIC AND WHAT LITTLE I KNOW ABOUT THE AREA IT COULD BE PIG BONE, LARGE FISH BONE, SEA TURTLE BONE OR WATER BUFFALO OR COW. DUGGONE, WHALE AND PROPOSE MIGHT ALSO HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE. THE EASY WAY WOULD BE TO FIND ENOUGH BONE ALL OF ONE TYPE AND REPLACE ALL THE PIECES AT ONCE. GOOD LUCK YOU HAVE QUITE A PROJECT AHEAD.