Pair of Ottoman Pistols

rickystl · 25th May 2015, 05:28 PM

Some more pics..........

rickystl · 25th May 2015, 05:29 PM

Still more......

rickystl · 25th May 2015, 05:45 PM

Here are close up pics showing the two types of "flase" ramrods encounted on these pistols. One shows the short piece of rod that just covers the groove of the stock. While the other just just shows an impression of a ramrod carved into the stock. As discussed on another Post, in this Region, it was preferred to load these pistols with a seperate rod called a Suma. Either suspended from the neck or tucked in a sash. But I believe it was simply a styling exercise to further accomodate the look of the European pistols.

Another interesting observation is that during this period, there seemed to be a preference for the French style of flintlock being used on the pistols, but retaining the Miquelet style lock for the long guns. Not always. But notice most of the Tufuk rifles you encounter today, and their continued use of the Miquelet. Not really sure why.
Rick.

rickystl · 25th May 2015, 05:55 PM

Just for fun, I had this double holser (the correct name escapes me at the moment) made to accomodate the pistols to the range. LOL Copied from originals, but without the decoration. Small pocket in the front for spare flints. And on the back is mounted an original (although plain) suma rod for loading.

The pistol holders are difficult to find by themselves. And the Dealers won't sell them seperatly from the pistols (can't say I blame them). I'm still looking for an original for a single pistol. But I'll keep looking. Rick.

Kubur · 25th May 2015, 07:48 PM

Hi Rick,
Beautiful pistols and your holster is really great!
I plan to make an holster too, but covered with a copy of Ottoman embrodery.
Best wishes,
Kubur (like the name of the holster

Ottoman flintlock kubur (holster pistols) and holster (kuburluk)

rickystl · 26th May 2015, 03:06 AM

Kuberluk!! Thank you !
Hi Kubur.
Yes, I agree. The Ottoman embroidery would look much better. But I can't seem to locate the right material/pattern I'm looking for. Nothing so far, seems to to have the look I want. The leathersmith said that once I locate the material I'm looking for, he can add it to the holster. So I'll keep looking. LOL!

The originals I've seen have the embroidery stiched on to the leather, along with silver thread. Let me know if you find some material that looks right.

Rick.

digenis · 27th May 2015, 04:08 PM

Thanks for posting. Great photos.

25th May 2015, 05:28 PM	#1
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Some more pics.......... Attached Images

25th May 2015, 05:29 PM	#2
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Still more...... Attached Images

25th May 2015, 05:45 PM	#3
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Here are close up pics showing the two types of "flase" ramrods encounted on these pistols. One shows the short piece of rod that just covers the groove of the stock. While the other just just shows an impression of a ramrod carved into the stock. As discussed on another Post, in this Region, it was preferred to load these pistols with a seperate rod called a Suma. Either suspended from the neck or tucked in a sash. But I believe it was simply a styling exercise to further accomodate the look of the European pistols. Another interesting observation is that during this period, there seemed to be a preference for the French style of flintlock being used on the pistols, but retaining the Miquelet style lock for the long guns. Not always. But notice most of the Tufuk rifles you encounter today, and their continued use of the Miquelet. Not really sure why. Rick. Attached Images

25th May 2015, 05:55 PM	#4
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Just for fun, I had this double holser (the correct name escapes me at the moment) made to accomodate the pistols to the range. LOL Copied from originals, but without the decoration. Small pocket in the front for spare flints. And on the back is mounted an original (although plain) suma rod for loading. The pistol holders are difficult to find by themselves. And the Dealers won't sell them seperatly from the pistols (can't say I blame them). I'm still looking for an original for a single pistol. But I'll keep looking. Rick. Attached Images

25th May 2015, 07:48 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Rick, Beautiful pistols and your holster is really great! I plan to make an holster too, but covered with a copy of Ottoman embrodery. Best wishes, Kubur (like the name of the holster Ottoman flintlock kubur (holster pistols) and holster (kuburluk)

26th May 2015, 03:06 AM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Kuberluk!! Thank you ! Hi Kubur. Yes, I agree. The Ottoman embroidery would look much better. But I can't seem to locate the right material/pattern I'm looking for. Nothing so far, seems to to have the look I want. The leathersmith said that once I locate the material I'm looking for, he can add it to the holster. So I'll keep looking. LOL! The originals I've seen have the embroidery stiched on to the leather, along with silver thread. Let me know if you find some material that looks right. Rick.

27th May 2015, 04:08 PM	#7
digenis Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 48	Thanks for posting. Great photos.