Unknown club for comment

[Maurice]

The butt end and oval shaped shaft are carved the same as the paddle shaped war clubs from the Solomon islands.

[kronckew]

ah, well, solomon islands seems most likely then. i wonder how the penguins got one. maybe another rennel islander? two attributed to rennell islands:

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by kronckew

ah, well, solomon islands seems most likely then. i wonder how the penguins got one. maybe another rennel islander?

I only noticed the shaft and butt reminds me of Solomon island clubs, but I don't know if it is one.

[spiral]

Sounds like were all on the same page eg. Solomon islands..

Kronckew Could the mostly sapwood side of a paddle club have been damaged & then later re shaped to how it looks now?

Of course we must never forget the current Seal/Penguin Antarctic wars..

Rape, genocide & the eating of the enemy victims...

linky

[Maurice]

[QUOTE=spiral]

Kronckew Could the mostly sapwood side of a paddle club have been damaged & then later re shaped to how it looks now?
[QUOTE]

I think that this could be likely the case, that it was paddle shaped before the damage, and recarved like this.

[fearn]

Sure that it's not student work from Hawai'i? I've seen some interesting modern art pieces in the stores around there selling native artwork. I asked, and while it's made for tourists, it is locally made by native Hawaiians. It's from high school woodworking classes, and they're trying to break into the art scene and make a few bucks.

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[kronckew]

Originally Posted by spiral

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Of course we must never forget the current Seal/Penguin Antarctic wars..

Rape, genocide & the eating of the enemy victims...

linky

horrible. war at it's worst. surely that violates the geneva conventions?

what becomes of the children of such encounters? the children always suffer worst.

p.s. - the reporters did not do their homework. true seals do not have ears & do not 'walk' on their front flippers. sea lions have ears and use their long front flippers for locomotion and holding victims...

i blame the media anti-seal bias. i'm complaining to greenpeace and amnesty international.

[Tim Simmons]

I cannot see this as an altered paddle. It appears too thick to be a paddle blade and the shaping is too far off a central axis to have been originally a paddle. Measurements and object comparison would be helpful.

[spiral]

Originally Posted by kronckew

sea lions use their long front flippers for locomotion and holding victims...

I blame the media anti-seal bias. i'm complaining to greenpeace and amnesty international.

I could see that...

Personally I think you need to ring prince Charlie & Edward. {using English euphemisms not Yankee ones.. }


Spiral

[kronckew]

aha! - club has arrived.

LOA 28 inches / 71 cm. width of blade roughly 4 in. thickness at blade approx. 1 in. weight 430 grams, just under a pound. tip not as damaged as it looks. sharp edges. definitely a club. it looks OLD, many greasy hand have held this and it looks like it's not been cleaned ever. rough polished surface with smoothed over tool marks under the patina. the two circular spots that i thoght may have been holes are not. they are the stubs of nails, one each side, that have been cut off or broken off and smoothed over. the (dirty) string baldric has sailor's knots, a bowline on the blade and two half hitches with an overhand stopper knot on the bitter end.

we seem to be getting a flood of clubs from the rennel islands recently.

[spiral]

Originally Posted by kronckew

aha! - club has arrived.

LOA 28 inches / 71 cm. width of blade roughly 4 in. thickness at blade approx. 1 in. weight 430 grams, just under a pound. tip not as damaged as it looks. sharp edges. definitely a club. it looks OLD, many greasy hand have held this and it looks like it's not been cleaned ever. rough polished surface with smoothed over tool marks under the patina. the two circular spots that i thoght may have been holes are not. they are the stubs of nails, one each side, that have been cut off or broken off and smoothed over. the (dirty) string baldric has sailor's knots, a bowline on the blade and two half hitches with an overhand stopper knot on the bitter end.

we seem to be getting a flood of clubs from the rennel islands recently.

Stubs of nails... fascinating Kronckew, Clearly second use of the timber then.

This morning, while walking the dog I picked up some larch driftwood on the beach with copper roves in it, & some oak with bronze clench fast nails, both clearly from old ship timbers...

A couple of weeks ago there was some oak & elm with iron handmade nails in it as well. {I throw it all in a friends firewood pile on the way home.. }

What metal are the nails/whatever made from in the club?

[kronckew]

Originally Posted by spiral

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What metal are the nails/whatever made from in the club?

they're perfectly round, about 2mm across, what i can see is shiny black, so likely rust blued steel. no sign of red rust or verdigris. some of the black has leeched into the surrounding wood.


p.s. - the bronze nails could have been from one of claudius caesar's galleys heading for/from porchester castle you should retrieve them from the fire ot & sell them as such on a certain auction site we are familiar with. or used to hold the copper bottom on the mary rose. a fortune awaits ye.