Unknown club for comment

Tim Simmons · 12th April 2015, 05:48 PM

I was watching that. I am not sure what to make of it. I hope I might be able to come back with some info latter. It does look rather like a dance club but it does appear to be reasonably heavy as a weapon. I think the fact that it does not reflect age and hand use on the shaft, plus the blunting on the distal end that perhaps it is a dance club/wand. To me it looks like Oceanic work which is a horrible way to say things but we have no better, except South Pacific which could include the Antarctic.

kronckew · 12th April 2015, 07:17 PM

speculation rife on the penguin wars of antarctica pre contact. sadly the penguins civilization crumbled and they were found in a pre-stone-age society.
their only possessions from the past, a few clubs their legends say were carved by the gods.

anyway, here's a few more pictures: it does sort of look like there may have been a braided fibre binding on the grip in the past...

spiral · 12th April 2015, 09:51 PM

Not my field, but when I saw it something in the back of my head said Solomon islands...

Must have seen something that echo's that in book or hand at some time...

kronckew · 13th April 2015, 09:45 AM

that was my initial thought so i looked thru vanadoo's series of 'most desired oceanic clubs' series here w/o any luck. did a search on 'solomon' also w/o any success, tho some clubs has a similar pointy end, but stepped where it turned into the grip. i also wondered if it might be amazonian. no luck searching on that either. i'll think of it as 'solomon islands' for the moment.

(or as my antartic penguin club)

Maurice · 13th April 2015, 07:23 PM

The butt end and oval shaped shaft are carved the same as the paddle shaped war clubs from the Solomon islands.

kronckew · 13th April 2015, 08:32 PM

ah, well, solomon islands seems most likely then. i wonder how the penguins got one.

maybe another rennel islander? two attributed to rennell islands:

Maurice · 13th April 2015, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

ah, well, solomon islands seems most likely then. i wonder how the penguins got one.

maybe another rennel islander?

I only noticed the shaft and butt reminds me of Solomon island clubs, but I don't know if it is one.

spiral · 13th April 2015, 08:36 PM

Sounds like were all on the same page eg. Solomon islands..

Kronckew Could the mostly sapwood side of a paddle club have been damaged & then later re shaped to how it looks now?

Of course we must never forget the current Seal/Penguin Antarctic wars..

Rape, genocide & the eating of the enemy victims...

linky

Maurice · 13th April 2015, 08:43 PM

[QUOTE=spiral]

Kronckew Could the mostly sapwood side of a paddle club have been damaged & then later re shaped to how it looks now?
[QUOTE]

I think that this could be likely the case, that it was paddle shaped before the damage, and recarved like this.

kronckew · 16th April 2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spiral

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Of course we must never forget the current Seal/Penguin Antarctic wars..

Rape, genocide & the eating of the enemy victims...

linky

horrible. war at it's worst. surely that violates the geneva conventions?

what becomes of the children of such encounters? the children always suffer worst.

p.s. - the reporters did not do their homework. true seals do not have ears & do not 'walk' on their front flippers. sea lions have ears and use their long front flippers for locomotion and holding victims...

i blame the media anti-seal bias. i'm complaining to greenpeace and amnesty international.

12th April 2015, 07:17 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	speculation rife on the penguin wars of antarctica pre contact. sadly the penguins civilization crumbled and they were found in a pre-stone-age society. their only possessions from the past, a few clubs their legends say were carved by the gods. anyway, here's a few more pictures: it does sort of look like there may have been a braided fibre binding on the grip in the past... Attached Images

13th April 2015, 08:32 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	ah, well, solomon islands seems most likely then. i wonder how the penguins got one. maybe another rennel islander? two attributed to rennell islands: Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 13th April 2015 at 08:50 PM.

12th April 2015, 05:48 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	I was watching that. I am not sure what to make of it. I hope I might be able to come back with some info latter. It does look rather like a dance club but it does appear to be reasonably heavy as a weapon. I think the fact that it does not reflect age and hand use on the shaft, plus the blunting on the distal end that perhaps it is a dance club/wand. To me it looks like Oceanic work which is a horrible way to say things but we have no better, except South Pacific which could include the Antarctic.

12th April 2015, 09:51 PM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Not my field, but when I saw it something in the back of my head said Solomon islands... Must have seen something that echo's that in book or hand at some time...

13th April 2015, 09:45 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	that was my initial thought so i looked thru vanadoo's series of 'most desired oceanic clubs' series here w/o any luck. did a search on 'solomon' also w/o any success, tho some clubs has a similar pointy end, but stepped where it turned into the grip. i also wondered if it might be amazonian. no luck searching on that either. i'll think of it as 'solomon islands' for the moment. (or as my antartic penguin club)

13th April 2015, 07:23 PM	#5
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	The butt end and oval shaped shaft are carved the same as the paddle shaped war clubs from the Solomon islands.

13th April 2015, 08:36 PM	#8
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Sounds like were all on the same page eg. Solomon islands.. Kronckew Could the mostly sapwood side of a paddle club have been damaged & then later re shaped to how it looks now? Of course we must never forget the current Seal/Penguin Antarctic wars.. Rape, genocide & the eating of the enemy victims... linky

13th April 2015, 08:43 PM	#9
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	[QUOTE=spiral] Kronckew Could the mostly sapwood side of a paddle club have been damaged & then later re shaped to how it looks now? [QUOTE] I think that this could be likely the case, that it was paddle shaped before the damage, and recarved like this.