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Old 30th March 2015, 12:33 PM   #1
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Interesting how the tip of the scabbard reminds of the Taiwanese pattern.
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Old 30th March 2015, 01:02 PM   #2
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Interesting how the tip of the scabbard reminds of the Taiwanese pattern.
Now when you mentioned it, yes indeed, very interesting!
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Old 31st March 2015, 06:36 PM   #3
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Detlef:

Great pick up -- these are very hard to find. Do you see anywhere that MOP "dangles" might have been attached. I think such ornaments are quite common on these swords and so far I have not seen one without some MOP on it.

BTW, it is interesting that you have a lizard/crocodile depicted on your example, as I have often thought that the scabbards themselves resembled a lizard/crocodile (with the head at the toe of the scabbard and the remainder representing its body)--the wrap could be modeled after the shape of its scales. Just a thought.

Here is a link to the pictures of my two in an earlier discussion http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...5&postcount=43

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Old 31st March 2015, 07:02 PM   #4
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Detlef:

Great pick up -- these are very hard to find. Do you see anywhere that MOP "dangles" might have been attached. I think such ornaments are quite common on these swords and so far I have not seen one without some MOP on it.

BTW, it is interesting that you have a lizard/crocodile depicted on your example, as I have often thought that the scabbards themselves resembled a lizard/crocodile (with the head at the toe of the scabbard and the remainder representing its body)--the wrap could be modeled after the shape of its scales. Just a thought.

Here is a link to the pictures of my two in an earlier discussion http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...5&postcount=43

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Hello Ian,

thank you for comment. I still don't have it in my hands but will look for "dangles" when I have received it. I am also still not sure if there is something missing at the toe of the scabbard.
Interesting thoughts about the lizard, good possible.
Your both are very nice examples, I've given a link to them in my first post already.

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Old 31st March 2015, 07:30 PM   #5
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Interesting scabbard with the lizard motif. This not the same weapon but from the same part of the world. When I first post pictures of it here many years ago because it had a gecko/salamander motif on the scabbard it was deemed a late 20th century tourist piece? I think we are past that now?
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Old 31st March 2015, 09:38 PM   #6
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Interesting scabbard with the lizard motif. This not the same weapon but from the same part of the world. When I first post pictures of it here many years ago because it had a gecko/salamander motif on the scabbard it was deemed a late 20th century tourist piece? I think we are past that now?
Hello Tim,
have a very similar hinalung, see here, post #3: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=bontoc and my one have for sure a good age, clearly not a tourist piece. At the side of the open scabbard is attached a nail for a carrying belt and think to see it by yours as well, I think a sign of real use. You have enough experience to tell if the patination on your piece is old, so what you think byself? The lizard could be a gecko, a animal about many Asian ethnics think that it have some magic. In Java the people think for example when this animal give noise seven times in a row that you will have good luck.

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Old 1st April 2015, 12:51 AM   #7
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Here is a note: the aboriginal Taiwanese and Philippine peoples are genetically and linguistically related, as well as with the rest of the region.
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