Ethiopian 19th century Gurade

Sajen · 31st January 2015, 11:35 AM

Very nice sword, congrats Cerjak! A shame that some parts of the handle are missing. All true what you writing, I've heard that rhino horn hunters contact dealers for ethnograhic items and ask for rhino horn and willing to pay very high prices. Hopefully they are collectors as well and don't sell to them.

Regards,
Detlef

Martin Lubojacky · 2nd February 2015, 08:13 AM

Rhino horn "hunters" directly contacted Ethiopian antique and ethnografic dealers in Addis Abeba at the beginning/mid of 90 ies. That time you could see Ethiopian dealers selling such handles separately - and blades separately, too. The buyers were often from Yemen. I consider this irreversible and very big detriment perpetrated on Etjhiopian antiquities.
Regads,
Martin

ariel · 2nd February 2015, 03:07 PM

Why do they need rhino horn when Viagra is available, cheaper and incomparably more effective?

The revenge of the rhinos: swallow several thousands $$ worth on congealed hair and still point south:-)

Serves the bastards right!

roanoa · 3rd February 2015, 01:13 AM

It's a SAD story. A while back I spotted two gorade with blades of a pattern that I do not have in my collection. GREAT swords. I was too late in contacting the dealer. The swords had already left for China. My request about the possibility of buying back JUST THE BLADES fell on deaf ears. It was obvious that the swords were sold at a very high price only because of the handles, which were, OF COURSE, made out of rhino horns. So, what is happening is that the GOOD QUALITY swords will continue to be butchered and lost to the collectors' world. Or come back as those horrible trinkets/tourist souvenirs abortions from Yemen. And YES, we all know that the powdered horn will NOT work.............

BANDOOK · 3rd February 2015, 06:49 AM

YES AND SO WILL THE YEMENI JAMBAYAS AND KHANJARS FROM OMAN WHICH HAVE RHINO HILT WILL ALSO DISSAPEAR COZ OF THESE GUYS

Rick · 3rd February 2015, 03:20 PM

That is a damned expensive placebo .

roanoa · 3rd February 2015, 09:25 PM

One of the sad parts of this absurd saga is that now MUSEUMS are being targeted by thieves who break in and steal the stuffed heads of rhinos!!!!!! Or chop the horns off the full size mounts. Next will be the zoo.

31st January 2015, 11:35 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Very nice sword, congrats Cerjak! A shame that some parts of the handle are missing. All true what you writing, I've heard that rhino horn hunters contact dealers for ethnograhic items and ask for rhino horn and willing to pay very high prices. Hopefully they are collectors as well and don't sell to them. Regards, Detlef

2nd February 2015, 08:13 AM	#2
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	Rhino horn "hunters" directly contacted Ethiopian antique and ethnografic dealers in Addis Abeba at the beginning/mid of 90 ies. That time you could see Ethiopian dealers selling such handles separately - and blades separately, too. The buyers were often from Yemen. I consider this irreversible and very big detriment perpetrated on Etjhiopian antiquities. Regads, Martin

2nd February 2015, 03:07 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Why do they need rhino horn when Viagra is available, cheaper and incomparably more effective? The revenge of the rhinos: swallow several thousands $$ worth on congealed hair and still point south:-) Serves the bastards right!

3rd February 2015, 01:13 AM	#4
roanoa Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 241	It's a SAD story. A while back I spotted two gorade with blades of a pattern that I do not have in my collection. GREAT swords. I was too late in contacting the dealer. The swords had already left for China. My request about the possibility of buying back JUST THE BLADES fell on deaf ears. It was obvious that the swords were sold at a very high price only because of the handles, which were, OF COURSE, made out of rhino horns. So, what is happening is that the GOOD QUALITY swords will continue to be butchered and lost to the collectors' world. Or come back as those horrible trinkets/tourist souvenirs abortions from Yemen. And YES, we all know that the powdered horn will NOT work.............

3rd February 2015, 06:49 AM	#5
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	YES AND SO WILL THE YEMENI JAMBAYAS AND KHANJARS FROM OMAN WHICH HAVE RHINO HILT WILL ALSO DISSAPEAR COZ OF THESE GUYS

3rd February 2015, 03:20 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	That is a damned expensive placebo .

3rd February 2015, 09:25 PM	#7
roanoa Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 241	One of the sad parts of this absurd saga is that now MUSEUMS are being targeted by thieves who break in and steal the stuffed heads of rhinos!!!!!! Or chop the horns off the full size mounts. Next will be the zoo.