A Nice Gunong to Share

Ian · 16th December 2014, 11:06 PM

Very, very nice Ron. Congratulations. Do you plan to etch that blade--looks like it has quite a lot of pattern to it.

Ian

RSWORD · 17th December 2014, 01:32 AM

Given the thickness of the blade at the handle and the way the fullers are oriented along with the tip and I wonder if this isn't a reshaped blade from another weapon? Lovely mounts and the etching could be revealing whether it was forged this way or cut down from something else.

Spunjer · 17th December 2014, 02:38 AM

thanks all! i tried the hot water test and it didn't show any lamination. will try the vinegar next time.
as far as the blade, i attached some more pics of a comparison with a similar type. notice that the original gunong posted is much thicker. the overall design looks as if it has some western influence as well.

David · 17th December 2014, 05:11 AM

Well damn, don't those make a nice pair!

Rick · 17th December 2014, 05:16 AM

Well, Ron the thicker of the two blades shows some forging flaws; they may be indicative of something going on in that blade .

Battara · 17th December 2014, 05:46 PM

Fricken, bricked beautiful!

Looks like gold and swassa too.........

Spunjer · 18th December 2014, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Well damn, don't those make a nice pair!

ooh, actually these two are the pair. the blades are almost the same size, but the other one doesn't have the fuller, although notice the similarity of the ricasso. not as thick, but close. the original one is beefier.
Jose, yes, it's gold, 14 k or better using nitric acid to test. as far as swaasa, it's most likely but i'm worried about testing it since there's no way to file it without leaving a mark.

Spunjer · 18th December 2014, 03:46 AM

regarding the second piece:
scabbard is silver as well, but in an oval fashion, the ukkil decoration on top and bottom are actually glued on the scabbard, with the top on being pretty loose, so i took off and tested, which turned out to be swaasa. meanwhile the rings accentuating the ukkil decoration are gold as well.
ferrule is 14k gold and crosspiece is low grade silver...

Spunjer · 18th December 2014, 03:55 AM

the third piece has an unusual take on its scabbard. heck, i just noticed it today, lol. the part that's facing out (same side as the belt loop), is made out of carabao horn, while the other side is narra wood. not that it's outstanding now, but i can just imagine this piece when it was newly made. the black carabao horn bordered by silver throat and toe would have been stunning! that, with silver crosspiece, red swaasa ferrule, and white ivory pommel would've stood out pretty good. btw, the crosspiece is made from a coin. you could vaguely see the roman letter "L" on one of the tips.

17th December 2014, 02:38 AM	#3
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	thanks all! i tried the hot water test and it didn't show any lamination. will try the vinegar next time. as far as the blade, i attached some more pics of a comparison with a similar type. notice that the original gunong posted is much thicker. the overall design looks as if it has some western influence as well. Attached Images

18th December 2014, 03:46 AM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	regarding the second piece: scabbard is silver as well, but in an oval fashion, the ukkil decoration on top and bottom are actually glued on the scabbard, with the top on being pretty loose, so i took off and tested, which turned out to be swaasa. meanwhile the rings accentuating the ukkil decoration are gold as well. ferrule is 14k gold and crosspiece is low grade silver... Attached Images

18th December 2014, 03:55 AM	#9
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	the third piece has an unusual take on its scabbard. heck, i just noticed it today, lol. the part that's facing out (same side as the belt loop), is made out of carabao horn, while the other side is narra wood. not that it's outstanding now, but i can just imagine this piece when it was newly made. the black carabao horn bordered by silver throat and toe would have been stunning! that, with silver crosspiece, red swaasa ferrule, and white ivory pommel would've stood out pretty good. btw, the crosspiece is made from a coin. you could vaguely see the roman letter "L" on one of the tips. Attached Images

16th December 2014, 11:06 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Very, very nice Ron. Congratulations. Do you plan to etch that blade--looks like it has quite a lot of pattern to it. Ian

17th December 2014, 01:32 AM	#2
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	Given the thickness of the blade at the handle and the way the fullers are oriented along with the tip and I wonder if this isn't a reshaped blade from another weapon? Lovely mounts and the etching could be revealing whether it was forged this way or cut down from something else.

17th December 2014, 05:11 AM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,209	Well damn, don't those make a nice pair!

17th December 2014, 05:16 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Well, Ron the thicker of the two blades shows some forging flaws; they may be indicative of something going on in that blade .

17th December 2014, 05:46 PM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Fricken, bricked beautiful! Looks like gold and swassa too.........