Another Philippine Sword

zelbone · 29th November 2005, 02:21 AM

I wouldn't get hung-up with names....

...it's a sundang

but I'd call it a talibong

LabanTayo · 29th November 2005, 02:54 AM

I'd call it a Talibong too, from either Panay or Negros.
There was a really cool one in an auction yesterday, but alas....I didnt win it...

So I can't show you pictures.
Talibong seems to be a good generic name for any Visayan sword.

themorningstar · 29th November 2005, 08:11 PM

sorry.. i'll be more specific.... its a pinuti....

themorningstar · 29th November 2005, 08:16 PM

i'm not opposed to using the term tenegre.... but i only use it for sundang that are tenegre...
i use the term sundang because that is what it is and accepted as in the visayas... as well as pinuti...
very well then.. i'll get more specific... i'll use the term they use where this particular blade is from in the visayas... it's an old name....
patalim...
-enjoy!

LabanTayo · 29th November 2005, 09:15 PM

yummy!!!
crispy pata - lim!!!!

there are so many names for visayan swords, depending on their location of origin, that its easier to call them generic terms, like sundang or talibong.

tenegre is a localized term, as is binangon, pinuti, talibon, talibong, ginungting, sinamak, inasal (i'm hungry, can't you tell) and so on. if you know the location, you'll know the name.

nechesh · 29th November 2005, 11:57 PM

Names are, of course, relative. A rose by any other name.....etc., etc. What i think we need to establish is a common understanding so that we, as a group of collectors, can understand each other when we say i've got this talibong or what do you know about sundangs. Personally, even if sundang is the proper term used in Visayas, i would hesitate to use it myself, at least on it's own, for fear that someone would think i was referring to a kris or some other sword. On it's own it's a fairly useless term. Usually when i hear that word used to discribe a kris it is used in conjuction with the word kris as "kris sundang". The bottom line is that we communicate and understand each other.

Battara · 30th November 2005, 01:10 AM

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"No it's a desert topping!..."

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29th November 2005, 02:54 AM	#2
LabanTayo Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 177	I'd call it a Talibong too, from either Panay or Negros. There was a really cool one in an auction yesterday, but alas....I didnt win it... So I can't show you pictures. Talibong seems to be a good generic name for any Visayan sword. Last edited by LabanTayo; 29th November 2005 at 03:22 AM.

29th November 2005, 02:21 AM	#1
zelbone Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: VISAYAS and MINDANAO Posts: 169	I wouldn't get hung-up with names.... ...it's a sundang but I'd call it a talibong

29th November 2005, 08:11 PM	#3
themorningstar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 55	sorry.. i'll be more specific.... its a pinuti....

29th November 2005, 08:16 PM	#4
themorningstar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 55	i'm not opposed to using the term tenegre.... but i only use it for sundang that are tenegre... i use the term sundang because that is what it is and accepted as in the visayas... as well as pinuti... very well then.. i'll get more specific... i'll use the term they use where this particular blade is from in the visayas... it's an old name.... patalim... -enjoy!

29th November 2005, 09:15 PM	#5
LabanTayo Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 177	yummy!!! crispy pata - lim!!!! there are so many names for visayan swords, depending on their location of origin, that its easier to call them generic terms, like sundang or talibong. tenegre is a localized term, as is binangon, pinuti, talibon, talibong, ginungting, sinamak, inasal (i'm hungry, can't you tell) and so on. if you know the location, you'll know the name.

29th November 2005, 11:57 PM	#6
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Names are, of course, relative. A rose by any other name.....etc., etc. What i think we need to establish is a common understanding so that we, as a group of collectors, can understand each other when we say i've got this talibong or what do you know about sundangs. Personally, even if sundang is the proper term used in Visayas, i would hesitate to use it myself, at least on it's own, for fear that someone would think i was referring to a kris or some other sword. On it's own it's a fairly useless term. Usually when i hear that word used to discribe a kris it is used in conjuction with the word kris as "kris sundang". The bottom line is that we communicate and understand each other.

30th November 2005, 01:10 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	"It's a floor wax!" "No it's a desert topping!..." (Saturday Night Live)