Another Philippine Sword

Tim Simmons · 27th November 2005, 08:36 AM

I think the pommel looks great. I like the way the brow ends in a curl, I must keep an eye out for one of these. Tim

Robert · 27th November 2005, 03:30 PM

Thank you all for your comments so far. What I am really trying to find out though is what this type of sword is called and its possible age, late 19th century, early 20th century (pre WWII) or mid 20th century (post WWII)? Thank you all again for your help.

Robert

Ian · 27th November 2005, 03:38 PM

Robert:

Zel is the authority on these pieces and I'm sure he will give you a considered answer about the name and age of this one. Based on some of his previous comments, I think the term for this one is a tenegre from Panay. As for age, mid-20th C. would seem about right.

As you note, the guard appears to have been mounted upside down, suggesting the hilt has been replaced or reattached at some time. The longer section is usually a partial knuckle bow, mostly on 20th C. pieces.

I look forward to Zel's comments.

Ian.

Robert · 28th November 2005, 03:27 AM

Ian,
Could you possible tell me where I could get pitch to reset the blade into the hilt? I've removed it to put the guard in the right position and would like to use pitch to reset the blade. I'm thinking that at some point in time it came loose and who ever it was that put it back together used Elmer's Glue to put it back in one piece. Thankfully they didn't use epoxy instead! As to the age I was thinking that with the ferrell being made of brass sheeting formed and soldiered to form it that it was hopefully pre WWII.

Robert

Ian · 28th November 2005, 12:37 PM

Robert:

I've sent you a PM.

A brazed brass ferrule would likely indicate pre-WWII manufacture.

Ian.

Spunjer · 28th November 2005, 11:12 PM

....or Negros?

themorningstar · 29th November 2005, 12:20 AM

its a sundang....

grrr...

27th November 2005, 08:36 AM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,896	I think the pommel looks great. I like the way the brow ends in a curl, I must keep an eye out for one of these. Tim

27th November 2005, 03:30 PM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Thank you all for your comments so far. What I am really trying to find out though is what this type of sword is called and its possible age, late 19th century, early 20th century (pre WWII) or mid 20th century (post WWII)? Thank you all again for your help. Robert

27th November 2005, 03:38 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,478	Robert: Zel is the authority on these pieces and I'm sure he will give you a considered answer about the name and age of this one. Based on some of his previous comments, I think the term for this one is a tenegre from Panay. As for age, mid-20th C. would seem about right. As you note, the guard appears to have been mounted upside down, suggesting the hilt has been replaced or reattached at some time. The longer section is usually a partial knuckle bow, mostly on 20th C. pieces. I look forward to Zel's comments. Ian.

28th November 2005, 03:27 AM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Ian, Could you possible tell me where I could get pitch to reset the blade into the hilt? I've removed it to put the guard in the right position and would like to use pitch to reset the blade. I'm thinking that at some point in time it came loose and who ever it was that put it back together used Elmer's Glue to put it back in one piece. Thankfully they didn't use epoxy instead! As to the age I was thinking that with the ferrell being made of brass sheeting formed and soldiered to form it that it was hopefully pre WWII. Robert

28th November 2005, 12:37 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,478	Robert: I've sent you a PM. A brazed brass ferrule would likely indicate pre-WWII manufacture. Ian.

28th November 2005, 11:12 PM	#6
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	....or Negros?

29th November 2005, 12:20 AM	#7
themorningstar Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 55	its a sundang.... grrr...