Sundang and kampilan for comment

Sajen · 3rd August 2014, 03:22 PM

You also can carefully try to heat the blade to loosen it from the handle. For this you can use for example a candle. I have done this with several keris blades to loosen the handles.

Regards,
Detlef

drac2k · 3rd August 2014, 04:57 PM

Thanks for the info ; is pitch the only thing that holds the blade in ? If so, it may be worth a try.The other worry I have is that the previous owner didn't use a pitch, but an epoxy.

Sajen · 3rd August 2014, 06:42 PM

I don't know if there is anything else which hold the handle at the blade, just try it, nothing worth can happen. Epoxy will also react by heat.

Best,
Detlef

ward · 3rd August 2014, 06:52 PM

Looking at how the blade goes in the handle I think Gavin and Charles are right, it's the pommel that was flipped not the whole hilt. That's why there is that band on the grip. You don't need to take the handle off just get under the band carefully and see what was done. Expect epoxy, if you're lucky maybe just white glue

Nirghosa · 6th August 2014, 03:27 AM

yours isn't the only one, I got one off ebay some year ago as well with the handle incorrect. Guard was correct but no handle. Fortunately my teacher is a smith and was able to carefully help me "knock" it loose. It seriously looked like they had used modelers cement at one time

drac2k · 6th August 2014, 12:20 PM

A member of the forum was good enough to give me the name of a swordsmith and as such, the blade is on it's way to California ; if this works out, he will be receiving a suitcase of "projects," to work on .

Gavin Nugent · 7th August 2014, 02:45 PM

Hi Drac2k

These Kampilans are quite simple in there manufacture.
The grip and pommel is a separate piece of timber from the guard and they are typically pinned with a single pin mid way through the grip.

I'd say the pin perhaps rusted through or was removed/fell out after the rattan binding wore through and was just reassembled incorrectly at the time.

A simple thing to reverse and rebind correctly.

3rd August 2014, 03:22 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,269	You also can carefully try to heat the blade to loosen it from the handle. For this you can use for example a candle. I have done this with several keris blades to loosen the handles. Regards, Detlef

3rd August 2014, 04:57 PM	#2
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	Thanks for the info ; is pitch the only thing that holds the blade in ? If so, it may be worth a try.The other worry I have is that the previous owner didn't use a pitch, but an epoxy.

3rd August 2014, 06:42 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,269	I don't know if there is anything else which hold the handle at the blade, just try it, nothing worth can happen. Epoxy will also react by heat. Best, Detlef

3rd August 2014, 06:52 PM	#4
ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	Looking at how the blade goes in the handle I think Gavin and Charles are right, it's the pommel that was flipped not the whole hilt. That's why there is that band on the grip. You don't need to take the handle off just get under the band carefully and see what was done. Expect epoxy, if you're lucky maybe just white glue

6th August 2014, 03:27 AM	#5
Nirghosa Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 119	yours isn't the only one, I got one off ebay some year ago as well with the handle incorrect. Guard was correct but no handle. Fortunately my teacher is a smith and was able to carefully help me "knock" it loose. It seriously looked like they had used modelers cement at one time

6th August 2014, 12:20 PM	#6
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,269	A member of the forum was good enough to give me the name of a swordsmith and as such, the blade is on it's way to California ; if this works out, he will be receiving a suitcase of "projects," to work on .

7th August 2014, 02:45 PM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Hi Drac2k These Kampilans are quite simple in there manufacture. The grip and pommel is a separate piece of timber from the guard and they are typically pinned with a single pin mid way through the grip. I'd say the pin perhaps rusted through or was removed/fell out after the rattan binding wore through and was just reassembled incorrectly at the time. A simple thing to reverse and rebind correctly.