The Omani Sayf. ( The Omani Straight Dancing Sword)

spiral · 27th July 2014, 08:57 PM

O yes, before I forget, Please if you ever find the elusive source of your statement re. Ingrams certainty that only straight dancing swords were used.

Please add it to this thread.... There many waiting to see the source in its entirety & properly referenced. As you know.. some people may be just a touch sceptical...

Its seems terrible to not be able to fathom the true source of such a critical & important statement, that so supported you in your 17 month long thread, particularily in your hour of need in the face of so much scepticism from myself & so many other forum members.

Hwyl fawr am nawr Ibrahim!

spiral

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 27th July 2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spiral

O yes, before I forget, Please if you ever find the elusive source of your statement re. Ingrams certainty that only straight dancing swords were used.

Please add it to this thread.... There many waiting to see the source in its entirety & properly referenced. As you know.. some people may be just a touch sceptical...

Its seems terrible to not be able to fathom the true source of such a critical & important statement, that so supported you in your 17 month long thread, particularily in your hour of need in the face of so much scepticism from myself & so many other forum members.

Hwyl fawr am nawr Ibrahim!

spiral

Salaams Spiral... I'm so glad you found the reference on page 205 as I thought I was going crackers ! How on earth I was supposed to have made that lot up is beyond me... So the reference is accurate viz as is the other reference by David(used in my second paragraph below) who quite correctly has seen the detail of the straight sword as belonging in my logical assessment or inference ... ie I know the sword was straight because that's the shape of the Funun sword. I hope you allow inference in the detective story of this sword... and insofar as written down transcript I trust you are aware of the unwritten history of the Funun.

On the subject of Funun and the straight sword see http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.23...=21104401332677 where it explains the weapon used in Razha. Consider what sword may have been first used in the Funun and in that regard the Old Omani Battle Sword fits... pre the Dynastic Sword or flexible dancer..

What this pair of references has effectively done is to close out any interlopers in the time frame. What it cannot show is what occured much later in 1970 when Oman opened the door into the late 20th Century and the through trade between souks flourished not least with blade rehilting which was quite prolific ...but the story has been told...

On with the show !!

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

spiral · 28th July 2014, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Salaams Spiral... I'm so glad you found the reference on page 205 as I thought I was going crackers ! How on earth I was supposed to have made that lot up is beyond me... .

No one doubted that reference or said it didn't exist.

Your Engish is better than many peoples born in England. you know that.

This is the one I repeatedly asked you to justify.

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Ingram is careful to point out that Omanis or Manga as they were known... only danced with the straight Omani dancing sword.
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You know... the one that doesn't exist, but you repeatedly stated did even when challenged.

spiral

Andrew · 28th July 2014, 09:15 PM

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27th July 2014, 08:57 PM	#1
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	O yes, before I forget, Please if you ever find the elusive source of your statement re. Ingrams certainty that only straight dancing swords were used. Please add it to this thread.... There many waiting to see the source in its entirety & properly referenced. As you know.. some people may be just a touch sceptical... Its seems terrible to not be able to fathom the true source of such a critical & important statement, that so supported you in your 17 month long thread, particularily in your hour of need in the face of so much scepticism from myself & so many other forum members. Hwyl fawr am nawr Ibrahim! spiral Last edited by spiral; 27th July 2014 at 10:26 PM.

28th July 2014, 09:15 PM	#4
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Moderator's Comment To avoid providing unwanted grist for the rumor mill, please be advised the mod team closed this thread temporarily so we may discuss it. While under discussion, I strongly advise against perpetuating this "debate" elsewhere on the forum, be it in an existing thread or a new thread. By all means, however, feel free to take it to 4Chan, PM or private email.

29th July 2014, 04:49 PM	#5
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Moderator Action The mod team has completed our review and discussion of this thread. Our decision is that it will remain closed. Anyone with the intestinal fortitude to wade through this thread with an objective eye would agree with this decision--indeed, he or she would marvel at how long it was permitted to remain open. This will not happen again. No further warnings nor gentle "reminders" will be provided. Threads will be locked and posting privileges will be revoked or suspended without notice. We strongly suggest you re-read your posts before hitting "Submit Reply." If you are uncertain whether your post will trigger a ban or thread lock, don't post it. Andrew Vikingsword Staff