A sail guard sword - blade for ID

fernando · 22nd July 2014, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M ELEY

Yes, Fernado, perhaps you should send it my way so I can carefully see if it fits in with my naval collection...for classification purposes only, I swear!

Thnks fo the suggestion, Cap'n; your'e a good man

. But i wouldn't do that to you; imagine all the stress living in common with the grip dilemma

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fernando · 22nd July 2014, 03:59 PM

Thank you Dirk,
Their provenance is not the same as my example, but they are from the same vicinity.

ulfberth · 29th July 2014, 06:40 PM

how about sail guard daggers Fernando ....
Spanish or Portuguese ....

fernando · 29th July 2014, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ulfberth

how about sail guard daggers Fernando ....
Spanish or Portuguese ....

The only one close to it:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=left+dagger

ulfberth · 30th July 2014, 07:20 AM

Hi Fernando,

That is a nice example with a very long slender blade.

I will try to post a new thread on the topic today, maybe someone can pinpoint the exact origin ... Look for sail guard dagger.

Kind regards

Dirk

midelburgo · 26th October 2021, 12:09 PM

My apologies for resurrecting this thread.

I got a new cup hilt rapier a couple of hours ago, and it seems the blade maker is the same swordsmith as the one from the sword in this thread.

In its fullers I can read:

X M X P E T E R X T E S C H (E)

X B E R G X H A V C E N

Which thanks to this thread I know it means Berghausen.
It seems (http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.27735.html) that an Alsatian Peter Tesch(e) was active in 1636-1657.

I believe the hilt of my sword is a bit later than that. Although the grotesco decoration and the almost dish cup with point breakers seem arcaic, the lack of "ears" at the pass d'ane, could be later in the XVIIth century (sellers pictures).

The thing has 1 meter blade and 116cm total length. Actually Berghausen is now in that artificial state called Rhenania-Palatinate.
PD. Berghausen was historically part of that mess, the archbishopric of Köln.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reckli...%B6llinghausen

fernando · 26th October 2021, 12:20 PM

Great sword. Post us larger pictures when you have it in hands, will you

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26th October 2021, 12:09 PM	#6
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 265	My apologies for resurrecting this thread. I got a new cup hilt rapier a couple of hours ago, and it seems the blade maker is the same swordsmith as the one from the sword in this thread. In its fullers I can read: X M X P E T E R X T E S C H (E) X B E R G X H A V C E N Which thanks to this thread I know it means Berghausen. It seems (http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.27735.html) that an Alsatian Peter Tesch(e) was active in 1636-1657. I believe the hilt of my sword is a bit later than that. Although the grotesco decoration and the almost dish cup with point breakers seem arcaic, the lack of "ears" at the pass d'ane, could be later in the XVIIth century (sellers pictures). The thing has 1 meter blade and 116cm total length. Actually Berghausen is now in that artificial state called Rhenania-Palatinate. PD. Berghausen was historically part of that mess, the archbishopric of Köln. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reckli...%B6llinghausen Attached Images Last edited by midelburgo; 26th October 2021 at 12:43 PM.

22nd July 2014, 03:59 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you Dirk, Their provenance is not the same as my example, but they are from the same vicinity.

29th July 2014, 06:40 PM	#3
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 435	how about sail guard daggers Fernando .... Spanish or Portuguese ....

30th July 2014, 07:20 AM	#5
ulfberth Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 435	Hi Fernando, That is a nice example with a very long slender blade. I will try to post a new thread on the topic today, maybe someone can pinpoint the exact origin ... Look for sail guard dagger. Kind regards Dirk

26th October 2021, 12:20 PM	#7
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Great sword. Post us larger pictures when you have it in hands, will you .