Maori wotsit?

VANDOO · 16th July 2014, 06:44 AM

ITS CALLED A DANCE PADDLE THEY ARE NICELY CARVED ON BOTH SIDES AND SHORTER THAN A OLDER FORM OF CEREMONIAL CHIEFS PADDLE CALLED A HOE. I AM NOT SURE WHEN THE SHORTER FORM OF DANCE PADDLE CAME INTO BEING BUT THE EXAMPLE I HAVE WAS COLLECTED IN THE EARLY 1930'S AND IS 33 INCHES LONG. I ASSUME THEY WERE USED IN CERTIAN TRADITIONAL DANCES PERHAPS TELLING THE STORIES OF THE VOYAGES OF THEIR ANCESTORS. THE SHORTER FORMS MAY HAVE ORIGINATED TO FIT IN TRAVELERS LUGGAGE JUST A GUESS.
HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE MORE RECENT SHORTER PADDLES # 1 &2 NO MEASUREMENTS. #3. 48 X 7 CM. LONG
#4 THRU #7, 50 INCH LONG. #8, 9 &10 NO MEASUREMENTS.

I STILL CLASS THE 50 INCH ONE AS A NEWER TYPE BASED ON ITS FORM.

VANDOO · 16th July 2014, 07:03 AM

HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE OLDER HOE WHICH BELONGED TO THE CHIEFS OR HIGH UP PEOPLE IN THE TRIBES.
#1 THRU #4 190 CM. LONG HOE CEREMONIAL PADDLE
#5. OLDMAN CATALOG PLATE.
#6. FROM THE BOOK " THE MAORI AS HE WAS"
#7 THRU #10. 155 CM. LONG CHIEFS CEREMONIAL PADDLE 1850'S
#11 & 12. PICTURES TALEN IN NEW ZEALAND 1890

kronckew · 16th July 2014, 08:58 AM

interesting. that's what it appears to be.

i can't dance. but i can tell stories!

i'll wonder how old it is...

kronckew · 18th July 2014, 01:52 PM

i've had another acquaintance tell me they thought it was a small hoe.

it just arrived, it's actual measurements are 18.5 inches (47cm) by 3.75 inches (9.5cm), and about an inch thick (2.54) in the middle. 180 grams. a few light dings and dents, but nothing more than normal wear & tear.

16th July 2014, 07:03 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE OLDER HOE WHICH BELONGED TO THE CHIEFS OR HIGH UP PEOPLE IN THE TRIBES. #1 THRU #4 190 CM. LONG HOE CEREMONIAL PADDLE #5. OLDMAN CATALOG PLATE. #6. FROM THE BOOK " THE MAORI AS HE WAS" #7 THRU #10. 155 CM. LONG CHIEFS CEREMONIAL PADDLE 1850'S #11 & 12. PICTURES TALEN IN NEW ZEALAND 1890 Attached Images

16th July 2014, 06:44 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ITS CALLED A DANCE PADDLE THEY ARE NICELY CARVED ON BOTH SIDES AND SHORTER THAN A OLDER FORM OF CEREMONIAL CHIEFS PADDLE CALLED A HOE. I AM NOT SURE WHEN THE SHORTER FORM OF DANCE PADDLE CAME INTO BEING BUT THE EXAMPLE I HAVE WAS COLLECTED IN THE EARLY 1930'S AND IS 33 INCHES LONG. I ASSUME THEY WERE USED IN CERTIAN TRADITIONAL DANCES PERHAPS TELLING THE STORIES OF THE VOYAGES OF THEIR ANCESTORS. THE SHORTER FORMS MAY HAVE ORIGINATED TO FIT IN TRAVELERS LUGGAGE JUST A GUESS. HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE MORE RECENT SHORTER PADDLES # 1 &2 NO MEASUREMENTS. #3. 48 X 7 CM. LONG #4 THRU #7, 50 INCH LONG. #8, 9 &10 NO MEASUREMENTS. I STILL CLASS THE 50 INCH ONE AS A NEWER TYPE BASED ON ITS FORM. Attached Images

16th July 2014, 08:58 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	interesting. that's what it appears to be. i can't dance. but i can tell stories! i'll wonder how old it is...

18th July 2014, 01:52 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	i've had another acquaintance tell me they thought it was a small hoe. it just arrived, it's actual measurements are 18.5 inches (47cm) by 3.75 inches (9.5cm), and about an inch thick (2.54) in the middle. 180 grams. a few light dings and dents, but nothing more than normal wear & tear.