Crowns on Aceh weapons revisited

Sajen · 19th June 2014, 09:09 PM

This one was sold today by 1300 Euro in a german auctionhouse! I think gold, suassa and silver, unsure about the stones.

Battara · 20th June 2014, 12:20 AM

Great piece Detlef, thank you for posting this. I agree: I see low gold, suassa, and silver. The stones do look like cabochon rubies, but close ups (if available) would help determine what they really are for sure.

Now the crown: on the one hand it looks like it could be old dirty low carat gold, but hard to determine for sure. If gold, then it would be low carat to have patina like this on it.

By the way, what is the name of the German auction house?

Sajen · 20th June 2014, 12:32 AM

Sorry, this have been the only pictures posted.

Maurice · 8th July 2014, 12:54 PM

Re-reading this interesting thread, it looks like brass crowns are more rare as golden ones, as I don't see any depicted here.

Are there rentjongs with brass crowns in forumites collections to add here?

Maurice

Sajen · 8th July 2014, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

By the way, what is the name of the German auction house?

Wendl!

asomotif · 3rd September 2014, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Wendl!

Ps. it is now on the market again. cleaned and looking better than on Wendls website.

Andrew · 3rd September 2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Ps. it is now on the market again. cleaned and looking better than on Wendls website.

Let's not discuss that particular item until it is no longer for sale, please.

Battara · 3rd September 2014, 11:57 PM

This particular item is now sold by Michael Backman (all cleaned up and made of silver, gilt silver, suassa, and gems):

asomotif · 4th September 2014, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

This particular item is now sold by Michael Backman (all cleaned up and made of silver, gilt silver, suassa, and gems):

All cleaned up it is a nice status piece.
But let's compare it with the other one in post #74
The crown of the piece with the akar bahar hilt has a much more elaborate crown. gold with enamel, instead of gilded silver crown with simple decortions on the piece with the suasa hilt.

Thank you, for posting the pictures.

19th June 2014, 09:09 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	This one was sold today by 1300 Euro in a german auctionhouse! I think gold, suassa and silver, unsure about the stones. Attached Images

20th June 2014, 12:20 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	Great piece Detlef, thank you for posting this. I agree: I see low gold, suassa, and silver. The stones do look like cabochon rubies, but close ups (if available) would help determine what they really are for sure. Now the crown: on the one hand it looks like it could be old dirty low carat gold, but hard to determine for sure. If gold, then it would be low carat to have patina like this on it. By the way, what is the name of the German auction house? Last edited by Battara; 20th June 2014 at 12:31 AM.

3rd September 2014, 11:57 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	This particular item is now sold by Michael Backman (all cleaned up and made of silver, gilt silver, suassa, and gems): Attached Images

20th June 2014, 12:32 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Sorry, this have been the only pictures posted.

8th July 2014, 12:54 PM	#4
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,453	Re-reading this interesting thread, it looks like brass crowns are more rare as golden ones, as I don't see any depicted here. Are there rentjongs with brass crowns in forumites collections to add here? Maurice