modern era Clubs/cudgel, Kom-fag thailand..

ausjulius · 13th June 2014, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KuKulzA28

I've been searching all over for more info on these clubs. Thank you so much!

yes information is not common at all.

i dont know their origin for sure.
but they have existed in their present form for 200 years or more.
there might have been some limitation on carrying edged weapons in some situations or something similar to that.. but thats just speculation, when they are used they are used in a more knfie like fashion that a club. lots of stabs and cuts, jabs to the face and chest. . cuts to the legs , shin, arms. .. ect

yes i think tourists when they see these they think theyer some household item , because theyer typically sold with slingshots, back massagers, rolling pns ect. other stuff made form hardwood.

harimauhk · 13th June 2014, 12:24 PM

As far as India goes, the most commonly seen striking weapon is the lathi (now common in polycarbonate), but these were traditional too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gada_(mace)

ausjulius · 13th June 2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by harimauhk

As far as India goes, the most commonly seen striking weapon is the lathi (now common in polycarbonate), but these were traditional too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gada_(mace)

hi the lathi is just a stick or switch like riot police carry the world over. ot really clublike.

i am referring specifically to clubs . like the shillelagh in ireland.. although this is just a tourist souvenir.. where as in thailand one could go to any large shopping centre and pick up a khom-fag

so my question is .. what other countires are such weapons still prsent and generally available. not as some exotic matrial arts weapon but just an everyday tool

trenchwarfare · 13th June 2014, 02:59 PM

Although not really a weapon, the folk-art "mace" is alive and well in Ukraine. I'm sure KraVseR can elaborate.

ausjulius · 13th June 2014, 07:00 PM

haha yespopular in russia also , most or many of them are made in prisons. ive seen decorative ones from plexi glass. textolite and stainless steel

theyer some sovie era folk art prison kitch thing. ams with those hatchets you may find from the soviet union with steel shafts and stacked handles. :0

kronckew · 29th June 2014, 09:35 PM

just noticed this thread, last year i bought a filipino club that looks a lot like those in the first post, it's made of gijo wood (?), a type of iron wood. 26" long

ausjulius · 22nd July 2014, 04:54 PM

hey thanks interesting Philippine club have you more pictures? what is the philipino name?
how is the shaft shaped? is it sharp like a blade or squared off??

i have never seen such a Filipino club before

on a side not there is some speculation in thailand about the khom-fag clubs origin if it was introduced by chinese or where it comes from because
firstly, it originats only in central thailand..
and second it is a carpenters product. never a police tool , never a weapon of war..

and thridly, chinese had an edged cudgel in the past of iron or of wood something like a wooden sword..
such a weapon might have been introduced in the 19th centuar with mass immigration from china to thailand and developed into the more simple form of the thai khom-fag found today...
although im not sure, chinese cudgel is very different in function more like a short heavy wooden sword .. with a handle , even some have a handle wrapping of silk

13th June 2014, 02:59 PM	#4
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Although not really a weapon, the folk-art "mace" is alive and well in Ukraine. I'm sure KraVseR can elaborate. Attached Images

29th June 2014, 09:35 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,238	just noticed this thread, last year i bought a filipino club that looks a lot like those in the first post, it's made of gijo wood (?), a type of iron wood. 26" long Attached Images

13th June 2014, 12:24 PM	#2
harimauhk Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 88	As far as India goes, the most commonly seen striking weapon is the lathi (now common in polycarbonate), but these were traditional too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gada_(mace)

13th June 2014, 07:00 PM	#5
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 454	haha yespopular in russia also , most or many of them are made in prisons. ive seen decorative ones from plexi glass. textolite and stainless steel theyer some sovie era folk art prison kitch thing. ams with those hatchets you may find from the soviet union with steel shafts and stacked handles. :0

22nd July 2014, 04:54 PM	#7
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 454	hey thanks interesting Philippine club have you more pictures? what is the philipino name? how is the shaft shaped? is it sharp like a blade or squared off?? i have never seen such a Filipino club before on a side not there is some speculation in thailand about the khom-fag clubs origin if it was introduced by chinese or where it comes from because firstly, it originats only in central thailand.. and second it is a carpenters product. never a police tool , never a weapon of war.. and thridly, chinese had an edged cudgel in the past of iron or of wood something like a wooden sword.. such a weapon might have been introduced in the 19th centuar with mass immigration from china to thailand and developed into the more simple form of the thai khom-fag found today... although im not sure, chinese cudgel is very different in function more like a short heavy wooden sword .. with a handle , even some have a handle wrapping of silk