Fake Persian axe??

CharlesS · 7th June 2014, 04:10 PM

I thought you might enjoy this period pic of a Persian "Fakir" with a very similar Qajar era axe of ceremonial type. In the pic it's a little hard to tell, but I believe the axe is looped over his shoulder in some manner and that he is holding a cane just below it. It almost seems as if the axe has been mounted on a wooden haft...but I can't see any point in that, so it may take a more careful look at the pic, thus my inclination towards his holding a cane.

He also seems to have a medallion of some sort looped around the axe.

Kubur · 7th June 2014, 06:42 PM

Thanks all

Your photo is very interesting.

My question is:

We always say ceremonial, but these axes were used by Fakir and sufi in India and Persia,
then it was the same with the dervishes in Sudan.
All these people are connected by faith and by their axes...

I enclose one double headed axe that I guess is from the 19th.
and connected to what I said.
Any ideas, comments or more photos??

machinist · 8th June 2014, 02:43 AM

Not much to add but a lovely picture of two Jewish dervishes supposedly from Iran and taken in the nineteen twenties.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 8th June 2014, 05:17 PM

See~

1. http://touba.tumblr.com/post/1021697...arvish-and-his

2. http://shahrefarang.com/en/qajar-dervishes/

for more examples.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

Kubur · 8th June 2014, 05:46 PM

The second link is amazing!
Elf choukran

I wanted to say that 'ceremonial' means used by people (sufi or fakir)
not for battle, but it's still cool
I think that an object used is still a valuable object
if we follow the definition of an ethnographic collection
it's the same with African masks.

Regards
Kubur

7th June 2014, 04:10 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I thought you might enjoy this period pic of a Persian "Fakir" with a very similar Qajar era axe of ceremonial type. In the pic it's a little hard to tell, but I believe the axe is looped over his shoulder in some manner and that he is holding a cane just below it. It almost seems as if the axe has been mounted on a wooden haft...but I can't see any point in that, so it may take a more careful look at the pic, thus my inclination towards his holding a cane. He also seems to have a medallion of some sort looped around the axe. Attached Images

7th June 2014, 06:42 PM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Persian double head axe Thanks all Your photo is very interesting. My question is: We always say ceremonial, but these axes were used by Fakir and sufi in India and Persia, then it was the same with the dervishes in Sudan. All these people are connected by faith and by their axes... I enclose one double headed axe that I guess is from the 19th. and connected to what I said. Any ideas, comments or more photos?? Attached Images

8th June 2014, 02:43 AM	#3
machinist Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 93	Not much to add but a lovely picture of two Jewish dervishes supposedly from Iran and taken in the nineteen twenties. Attached Images Last edited by machinist; 8th June 2014 at 03:00 AM.

8th June 2014, 05:46 PM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	valuable object for an ethnographic collection The second link is amazing! Elf choukran I wanted to say that 'ceremonial' means used by people (sufi or fakir) not for battle, but it's still cool I think that an object used is still a valuable object if we follow the definition of an ethnographic collection it's the same with African masks. Regards Kubur

8th June 2014, 05:17 PM	#4
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	See~ 1. http://touba.tumblr.com/post/1021697...arvish-and-his 2. http://shahrefarang.com/en/qajar-dervishes/ for more examples. Ibrahiim al Balooshi.