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Old 1st June 2014, 04:19 AM   #1
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Looks like akar bahar to me......
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Old 1st June 2014, 11:29 PM   #2
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I'm with Jose on the pommel being from polished AB.

Thanks for another great example, Willem!

The "heart" looks like another variant of the tree of life motif.

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Old 2nd June 2014, 03:37 PM   #3
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Happily gathering pictures I remembered this variation.
I am not sure where it was taken, the website says "Tropenmuseum" (Amsterdam)
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Old 3rd June 2014, 12:29 AM   #4
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I photo edited the pictures to better see them. Notice on the rounded one that there are concentric circles indicative of coral.
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Old 18th June 2014, 04:57 PM   #5
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Here is a siwar that was sold by Michael Backman. He states that it belonged to a sultan. The gold mounts have gems on them and the hilt is black coral and the scabbard tip is ivory. Silver bands are go down the scabbard and the top piece is also ivory.

I also included the picture Michael Backman provided of Sultan Muhammad Daud Syah Johan Berdaulat with a similar sitar for context.
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Old 18th June 2014, 05:10 PM   #6
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Not to hog this thread, but here is my sikim and close ups of the crown.
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Old 18th June 2014, 08:06 PM   #7
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Not to hog this thread, but here is my sikim and close ups of the crown.
Nice, looks a lot like the one in post #10
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