Archaic kalis gamble

[Sajen]

Have received some better pictures from sister and brother in law. Handle intact and blade have corrosion but not to bad. But can't see any hints that the blade is twistcore.

[Battara]

Be easier to tell once the blade is cleaned and etched. Be very careful - I see 2 cracks in the blade!

[Rick]

There is definitely an inlay down the center of the blade .
These edge cracks are interesting; the iron is perhaps tired ?

[kai]

Hello Rick,

There is definitely an inlay down the center of the blade .

Any silver inlay seems to be gone. I assume you mean the pamor cores sandwiched onto the central piece of steel?

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

I assume you mean the pamor cores sandwiched onto the central piece of steel?

I understand it also like this.

[Rick]

Yes, that's what I meant .
Those cracks make me wonder if the core material was a bit overworked during forging .

[mross]

Originally Posted by Rick

Yes, that's what I meant .
Those cracks make me wonder if the core material was a bit overworked during forging .

That's the usual reason for certain material, wootz, meteoric iron etc. Another possibility is a failed quench, this happens quite a bit in a water quench.
I'm really intrested in this sword. Looks like a nice one.

[Sajen]

Thank you Jose and Rick,

agree that a possible twistcore will be visible when the blade is cleaned and etched. The cracks at the edge I have noticed as well. Could be a forging matter/mistake IMHO.

Regards,
Detlef

[kai]

Hello Jose,

Be very careful - I see 2 cracks in the blade!

Unless one wants to put this piece into real use, I don't think those cracks will be much of a problem; there are also forging flaws from welding the sandwich construction. The blade looks sturdy enough though; IMHO Detlef just needs to neutralize well after etching...

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Jose,


Unless one wants to put this piece into real use, I don't think those cracks will be much of a problem; there are also forging flaws from welding the sandwich construction. The blade looks sturdy enough though; IMHO Detlef just needs to neutralize well after etching...

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

agree with you! Don't think that the blade is very destabilized by the cracks!

Regards,
Detlef

[kai]

Hello Detlef,

Have received some better pictures from sister and brother in law. Handle intact and blade have corrosion but not to bad. But can't see any hints that the blade is twistcore.

Congrats, you certainly did very well!

I also believe that there will be no twistcore - usually it should be discernible with this amount of corrosion. The remaining chance of twistcore would be if this blade (including fullers) got intensively buffed before long-time storage and the closed pores in the iron preventing the corrosion to show the pattern (can't see any hints though). Blade is definitely laminated, of course.

I hope you'll receive this in due time. I would certainly like to see the laminations after etching - it may help to verify wether this is an archaic kris or a later revival example. Anyway, the scrollwork at the base of the blade is very good quality.

Regards,
Kai

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Detlef,


Congrats, you certainly did very well!

I also believe that there will be no twistcore - usually it should be discernible with this amount of corrosion. The remaining chance of twistcore would be if this blade (including fullers) got intensively buffed before long-time storage and the closed pores in the iron preventing the corrosion to show the pattern (can't see any hints though). Blade is definitely laminated, of course.

I hope you'll receive this in due time. I would certainly like to see the laminations after etching - it may help to verify wether this is an archaic kris or a later revival example. Anyway, the scrollwork at the base of the blade is very good quality.

Regards,
Kai

Hello Kai,

thank you! Will need a little bit time, the family in the States just have changed the room and don't have so much time in the moment.
And agree with you about the scrollwork, much better as by the other example I have.

Regards,
Detlef