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Old 31st March 2014, 05:08 PM   #1
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Hi Kai,

I am not familiar with the origin of the scabbard, but assume that it was likely not rare nor special at that time. This "bangkung" was likely a farm or chopping tool and perhaps did not need an elaborate scabbard in the first place.

I am not sure if it would be appropriate to classify the scabbard as "moro" or "non-moro."

Here is a photo from Krieger's 1926 work. The basketry on the left is attributed to Basilan of the Sulu Archipelago.

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The fact the Krieger is specific enough to call these "bolo" cases at least makes it a strong possibility that your example's blade and scabbard were, even if not born together(and they may have been), at least likely together for a very long time.

If only he had included an example of a "bolo" with them it would really give us a more decisive answer.
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Old 31st March 2014, 05:16 PM   #2
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i never knew that there was a moro version of bangkung..
it's good to learn new stuff..
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Old 1st April 2014, 09:56 AM   #3
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Nice to see all the variations of the Bangkung in one place.
Perhaps the last one, without a scabbard, once was as nice as Kino's?

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Old 1st April 2014, 11:39 PM   #4
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Some very nice bankung, thank's to all for showing!
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Old 2nd April 2014, 03:12 AM   #5
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Thanks for the kind words.
Day one in my possession, the bangkung was covered with rust and was pitted.
With a lot of help from a knife maker we got the blade to its current state.

Now here's a hybrid (wish it were mine), is it a BANGRIS or a KRIKUNG. No matter what it's called, I call it beautiful.

If the owner is a forum member, post some photos will ya!
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Old 2nd April 2014, 12:15 PM   #6
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Thanks for the kind words.
Day one in my possession, the bangkung was covered with rust and was pitted.
With a lot of help from a knife maker we got the blade to its current state.

Now here's a hybrid (wish it were mine), is it a BANGRIS or a KRIKUNG. No matter what it's called, I call it beautiful.

If the owner is a forum member, post some photos will ya!

Kino,

I have seen this piece and it is much smaller than an average kangkung. It does not have that kind of weight. I believed it was exclusively a status piece. And, no...it is not mine.

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Old 3rd April 2014, 07:58 AM   #7
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Hello Charles,

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I have seen this piece and it is much smaller than an average kangkung. It does not have that kind of weight. I believed it was exclusively a status piece.
It's certainly a really odd one, especially with that Chinese dragon on the hilt!

BTW, here's Artzi's description of the blade: "The blade is heavy, 20 inches long, single edged and hollow ground. It is forged from fine laminated steel."

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Old 3rd April 2014, 12:22 PM   #8
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Kino,

I have seen this piece and it is much smaller than an average kangkung. It does not have that kind of weight. I believed it was exclusively a status piece. And, no...it is not mine.
lol, i'm pretty sure this was a typo, charles coz i know you're not referring to the water spinach:
http://mydestiny2011.org/wp-content/...s/kangkung.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangkung

so now you're making me crave for kangkung and not a place to buy the darn thing around here, lol
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Old 2nd April 2014, 12:33 PM   #9
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Now here's a hybrid (wish it were mine), is it a BANGRIS or a KRIKUNG. No matter what it's called, I call it beautiful.
A BANGRIS from Holstein's work. Twistcore

The back edge is quite long.
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Old 3rd April 2014, 07:14 AM   #10
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Hello Gustav,

I'd posit that this is a shandigris (with backedge)...

(This looks more like a barung-like blade for slashing rather than the chopping action most bangkung blades are optimized for.)

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