A 1548 Nuremberg Dagger-grip Over-and-Under Double Wheellock Pistol

Matchlock · 22nd March 2014, 11:27 AM

Congrats, Marcus!

m

Fernando K · 22nd March 2014, 11:11 PM

Hello everyone:

Speaking in this thread, just to say that the loose lock Dresden Armoury Museum I think is a recent reproduction. I think I see no piece forged, but constructed from a mass, conveniently cut even formed with a shaper. Even the screw thread that closes the jaws is perfect as that achieved the lathe or with a modern tool for threading. Even I see a perfecion settings between the different parts, as now would accomplish an actual adjuster ....

Is it so?

Affectionately. Fernando K

(Sorry for the translator)

Matchlock · 23rd March 2014, 01:17 PM

Hi Fernando K,

Are you talking about this detached mechanism?

Best,
Michael

Fernando K · 23rd March 2014, 02:27 PM

atchlock:

Yes

Fernando K

Matchlock · 23rd March 2014, 03:17 PM

Hi Fernando,

That detached wheellock mechanism is absolutely genuine, like anything else in the Dresden armory! At the Royal Armouries Leeds there is a complete wheellock gun, ca. 1530-1535, with the very same type of lock, including the identical maker's mark (first three attachments).
If you ever come to see the Dresden Rüstkammer (armory) yourself you will believe me:
Literally everything in their collections is preserved in absolutley stunning, NEAR MINT CONDITION!!! That condition compares to no objects in any other museum, perhaps with the exception of Graz.

I attached photos of some of their guns and detached locks for you to judge by yourself. Just look at the beautiful condition that the famous 'monk's gun', ca. 1540, is in!

Best,
Michael

Fernando K · 24th March 2014, 01:04 PM

Matchlock Estimate:

No comments yet.

You could tell me that is what you see on the back of the lock, behind the wheel, the last image of the post?

Affectionately. Fernando K
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Matchlock · 24th March 2014, 02:15 PM

Hi Fernando,

The tube you are referring to must be for a length of matchcord to be fixed, so what seems to be a detached wheellock mechanism at first glance really would be a tinderlighter.

Best,
Michael

23rd March 2014, 01:17 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Fernando K, Are you talking about this detached mechanism? Best, Michael Attached Images

23rd March 2014, 03:17 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Fernando, That detached wheellock mechanism is absolutely genuine, like anything else in the Dresden armory! At the Royal Armouries Leeds there is a complete wheellock gun, ca. 1530-1535, with the very same type of lock, including the identical maker's mark (first three attachments). If you ever come to see the Dresden Rüstkammer (armory) yourself you will believe me: Literally everything in their collections is preserved in absolutley stunning, NEAR MINT CONDITION!!! That condition compares to no objects in any other museum, perhaps with the exception of Graz. I attached photos of some of their guns and detached locks for you to judge by yourself. Just look at the beautiful condition that the famous 'monk's gun', ca. 1540, is in! Best, Michael Attached Images

22nd March 2014, 11:27 AM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Congrats, Marcus! m

22nd March 2014, 11:11 PM	#2
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello everyone: Speaking in this thread, just to say that the loose lock Dresden Armoury Museum I think is a recent reproduction. I think I see no piece forged, but constructed from a mass, conveniently cut even formed with a shaper. Even the screw thread that closes the jaws is perfect as that achieved the lathe or with a modern tool for threading. Even I see a perfecion settings between the different parts, as now would accomplish an actual adjuster .... Is it so? Affectionately. Fernando K (Sorry for the translator)

23rd March 2014, 02:27 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	atchlock: Yes Fernando K

24th March 2014, 01:04 PM	#6
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Matchlock Estimate: No comments yet. You could tell me that is what you see on the back of the lock, behind the wheel, the last image of the post? Affectionately. Fernando K Please help Google Translate improve quality for your language here. Google Translate for Business:Translator ToolkitWebsite TranslatorGlobal Market Finder Turn off instant translationAbout Google TranslateMobilePrivacyHelpSend feedback

24th March 2014, 02:15 PM	#7
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Fernando, The tube you are referring to must be for a length of matchcord to be fixed, so what seems to be a detached wheellock mechanism at first glance really would be a tinderlighter. Best, Michael