Unknown sword, maybe naval sword?

carlos · 10th February 2014, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timo Nieminen

Looks like a training cutlass. If so, it should have a blunt blade (blunt as in 1mm or more thick edge) and rounded tip. The tip on this is too pointy. Perhaps it's a training cutlass where the tip has been modified? Perhaps the edge has been ground sharp too.

(Googling for "training cutlass" should find some examples.)

Thank you very much !!
Carlos

Jim McDougall · 10th February 2014, 08:01 PM

As Timo has astutely observed, this does appear to be one of those 19th century training weapons, which did not of course follow any sort of regulation or pattern and were privately produced usually. Most of the maritime weaponry was privately produced as well in these earlier times in the 19th century for commercial vessels .

I had one of the British military training swords with a thin, stiff blade and a huge steel bowl, I think dated around 1911, but it was fascinating.

This one Carlos has a unique, rugged charm to it that brings to mind things nautical and though far later and fancifully, surely has a 'pirate' ring to it!

Wait til Mark Eley sees it!!!

fernando · 10th February 2014, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

... that brings to mind things nautical and though far later and fancifully, surely has a 'pirate' ring to it!

Wait til Mark Eley sees it!!!

Ah ... tease him

M ELEY · 12th February 2014, 07:52 AM

Yes, indeed, gentlemen!

Training cutlass it is and good to see a naval/nautical piece in so many months on the Forum. There's a small brochure/volume you can still pick up on eBay that is a late 19th c. reprint of the actuall exercises/drills used on the British ships. Not anything close to fencing, but fascinating in their brutal simplicity. One of the reasons that the Americans developed their unique leather helmets were to defend against the brutal, almost blunt strike from the cutlasses of the era. Good find, Carlos and thank you gents for thinking of Ole' Pirate Mark (

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carlos · 12th February 2014, 10:21 AM

Thank you much everyboby for your answers !!
best regards
carlos

carlos · 12th February 2014, 10:56 AM

Thank you much everyboby for your answers !!
best regards
carlos

10th February 2014, 08:01 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,192	As Timo has astutely observed, this does appear to be one of those 19th century training weapons, which did not of course follow any sort of regulation or pattern and were privately produced usually. Most of the maritime weaponry was privately produced as well in these earlier times in the 19th century for commercial vessels . I had one of the British military training swords with a thin, stiff blade and a huge steel bowl, I think dated around 1911, but it was fascinating. This one Carlos has a unique, rugged charm to it that brings to mind things nautical and though far later and fancifully, surely has a 'pirate' ring to it! Wait til Mark Eley sees it!!!

12th February 2014, 07:52 AM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	Yes, indeed, gentlemen! Training cutlass it is and good to see a naval/nautical piece in so many months on the Forum. There's a small brochure/volume you can still pick up on eBay that is a late 19th c. reprint of the actuall exercises/drills used on the British ships. Not anything close to fencing, but fascinating in their brutal simplicity. One of the reasons that the Americans developed their unique leather helmets were to defend against the brutal, almost blunt strike from the cutlasses of the era. Good find, Carlos and thank you gents for thinking of Ole' Pirate Mark ( )

12th February 2014, 10:21 AM	#5
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 748	Thank you much everyboby for your answers !! best regards carlos

12th February 2014, 10:56 AM	#6
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 748	Thank you much everyboby for your answers !! best regards carlos