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ArmsAndAntiques · 26th January 2014, 05:18 AM

I would agree with a 19th C. dating, possibly earlier. It's quite uncommon to find one with Devangari writing in koftgari, which yours appears to have remnants of. The form and shape are similar to one I had a few years back. I would imagine they would be more likely to be from a similar area. The tools on the one that I had were overlaid in a very similar style koftgari.

TVV · 27th January 2014, 06:45 PM

Thank you ArmsAndAntiques, the example you show, while much finer than mine, is very similar in form. Interesting to see all the utensils as well.

Teodor

Jens Nordlunde · 29th December 2019, 04:38 PM

Is it possible that someone can translate what is left of the text on TVV's katar?

ariel · 30th December 2019, 12:01 AM

I sent a pic of the inscription to my study coordinator ( she is from Chennai).
Do not expect quick answer: it’s New Year time.
Moreover, who knows what language was used.

Battara · 30th December 2019, 12:12 AM

What makes it extra hard is the rust underneath that has lifted off the overlying koftgari.

ariel · 31st December 2019, 06:24 PM

Jose was correct: the inscription is mutilated by rust.
The last word in it is " Rajah".
For the rest, my res. asst. sent pics to India, she has several friends who are linguists. But even she has very little hope.....

TVV · 31st December 2019, 08:41 PM

Well, one word is better than nothing. Thank you and your friend, Ariel,

Teodor

26th January 2014, 05:18 AM	#1
ArmsAndAntiques Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 80	I would agree with a 19th C. dating, possibly earlier. It's quite uncommon to find one with Devangari writing in koftgari, which yours appears to have remnants of. The form and shape are similar to one I had a few years back. I would imagine they would be more likely to be from a similar area. The tools on the one that I had were overlaid in a very similar style koftgari. Attached Images

27th January 2014, 06:45 PM	#2
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,716	Thank you ArmsAndAntiques, the example you show, while much finer than mine, is very similar in form. Interesting to see all the utensils as well. Teodor

29th December 2019, 04:38 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Is it possible that someone can translate what is left of the text on TVV's katar?

30th December 2019, 12:01 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I sent a pic of the inscription to my study coordinator ( she is from Chennai). Do not expect quick answer: it’s New Year time. Moreover, who knows what language was used.

30th December 2019, 12:12 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,325	What makes it extra hard is the rust underneath that has lifted off the overlying koftgari.

31st December 2019, 06:24 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Jose was correct: the inscription is mutilated by rust. The last word in it is " Rajah". For the rest, my res. asst. sent pics to India, she has several friends who are linguists. But even she has very little hope.....

31st December 2019, 08:41 PM	#7
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,716	Well, one word is better than nothing. Thank you and your friend, Ariel, Teodor