Jamdhar/katar why do we call it a katar?

[ariel]

Originally Posted by AhmedH

Persian (which I've studied for two years in my faculty in 1997-1999), I can say there are many English and other Western and Northern European words that were derived from this language; among the countless words are:

Star, jungle, group, committee, mother, father, brother, daughter, restaurant, and skeleton.


Ahmed Helal Hussein

Well, despite being an Indo-European language, Persian is not the cradle of linguistic civilization: Jungle is from the Sanskrit "Jangala", uncultivated land, Skeleton is Greek "skeletos", dessicated body, "committee" is Latin " committere", to collect ( committee per se is an English legal term of 15th century for a person to whom something is entrusted), Group is Proto-Germanic Kruppaz, a lump, Restaurant is a French neologism for an eatery serving nutritious meat bouillons, allegedly " restoring" human vitality ( McDonalds being the shining example:-)), and finally Star, is pure Sanskrit ( star) or Hittite (Shittar), both languages predating Persian by a week or two :-) :-)

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by ariel

Well, despite being an Indo-European language, Persian is not the cradle of linguistic civilization: Jungle is from the Sanskrit "Jangala", uncultivated land, Skeleton is Greek "skeletos", dessicated body, "committee" is Latin " committere", to collect ( committee per se is an English legal term of 15th century for a person to whom something is entrusted), Group is Proto-Germanic Kruppaz, a lump, Restaurant is a French neologism for an eatery serving nutritious meat bouillons, allegedly " restoring" human vitality ( McDonalds being the shining example:-)), and finally Star, is pure Sanskrit ( star) or Hittite (Shittar), both languages predating Persian by a week or two :-) :-)

Salaams Ariel,

I really can't tell which was earlier: Kurdish or Sanskrit, but I can tell you for sure that Persian predated Greek. Persian is really ancient. The other derivatives you've shown may have older sources; not necessarily those whom you mentioned, but you could be right regarding "restaurant" being taken by the Persians from the French.

Just have to make sure which is older: Kurdish or Sanskrit.

Thanks a lot for your clarifying post!

As ever,
Ahmed Helal Hussein

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by ariel

Well, despite being an Indo-European language, Persian is not the cradle of linguistic civilization: Jungle is from the Sanskrit "Jangala", uncultivated land, Skeleton is Greek "skeletos", dessicated body, "committee" is Latin " committere", to collect ( committee per se is an English legal term of 15th century for a person to whom something is entrusted), Group is Proto-Germanic Kruppaz, a lump, Restaurant is a French neologism for an eatery serving nutritious meat bouillons, allegedly " restoring" human vitality ( McDonalds being the shining example:-)), and finally Star, is pure Sanskrit ( star) or Hittite (Shittar), both languages predating Persian by a week or two :-) :-)

BTW,

Skeleton: "Eskelet" (the Persian word) means "frame" and "skeleton"

Star: "S'taureh" (the Perisan word) may mean "that which shields or curtains the earth from the sky, or vice versa".

Say, did you know that the most ancient Persian was written from left to right?

As ever,
Ahmed

[AhmedH]

Originally Posted by ariel

Well, despite being an Indo-European language, Persian is not the cradle of linguistic civilization: Jungle is from the Sanskrit "Jangala", uncultivated land, Skeleton is Greek "skeletos", dessicated body, "committee" is Latin " committere", to collect ( committee per se is an English legal term of 15th century for a person to whom something is entrusted), Group is Proto-Germanic Kruppaz, a lump, Restaurant is a French neologism for an eatery serving nutritious meat bouillons, allegedly " restoring" human vitality ( McDonalds being the shining example:-)), and finally Star, is pure Sanskrit ( star) or Hittite (Shittar), both languages predating Persian by a week or two :-) :-)

As for "Jungle", it's pronounced like that in Persian: "Djungul"; exactly the same way we pronounce the word in English!