Silver/Gold Bugis Kris

asomotif · 23rd December 2013, 09:20 PM

I am with David.
Particularly on the toli-toli opinion :-)

Indeed a very nice keris in aspect of both the blade as well as the dress.
The filigrain and granulation is very nicely done.

A little oil for the blade would be recommended ;-)

Best regards,
Willem

DaveS · 23rd December 2013, 11:48 PM

Willem: Yeah, i noticed that the blade needed to be reoiled. took care
of it...........Dave.

Battara · 23rd December 2013, 11:59 PM

Nice pamor. Yes I agree - late 20th century dress.

GIO · 24th December 2013, 04:38 PM

Yes the blade is nice, but it seems it has some signs of surface rust.
A very light cleaning before oiling would be proper.

Ganja Iras · 26th December 2013, 10:28 AM

I see a lot of similarities between my pics ( attachments below ) with Daves pics.
I dont know whether they come from the same silver smith or not.
in lombok ,keris bugis and other kind of buginesse traditional weapons are come and found in sumbawa island ( sumbawa - dompu - bima ).
and when we found a blade without sheath or hilt ,we usually make and remake in local mranggi .
we do the same to the pendhok ( silver & gold ).
here i include some pics of my keris in silver combine with gold and gems in toli toli.
any comments are very welcom
thanks and regards ,

Ganja iras

DaveS · 26th December 2013, 08:00 PM

Ganja Irias: Thank you for your comments. Yes they do look similar. It's
hard to tell if the work was done by the same person, but it
shows the very high quality of silver and gold work done by
Indonesian metalworkers. I have seen very few kris of this kind
and don't think they are very common at all, even today.
.......Dave.

David · 27th December 2013, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveS

I have seen very few kris of this kind and don't think they are very common at all, even today.

Not to take away from the quality of the work, which is indeed nice, but i would say that this kind of dress is probably much more common today than it was back in the day. Dress which was once reserved for either royalty or people of very high social status are today available to anyone who can afford to pay for it. You almost never see antique dress with toli-toli of these materials. When you do they are usually part of some royal regalia. Of course, the really royal examples that get this extravagant with dress are generally all gold, not silver. You might find this thread interesting and pertinent to this subject.
http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17269

23rd December 2013, 11:48 PM	#2
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Silver/Gold Bugis Kris Willem: Yeah, i noticed that the blade needed to be reoiled. took care of it...........Dave.

26th December 2013, 10:28 AM	#5
Ganja Iras Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 57	siliasih ( silver & gold ) I see a lot of similarities between my pics ( attachments below ) with Daves pics. I dont know whether they come from the same silver smith or not. in lombok ,keris bugis and other kind of buginesse traditional weapons are come and found in sumbawa island ( sumbawa - dompu - bima ). and when we found a blade without sheath or hilt ,we usually make and remake in local mranggi . we do the same to the pendhok ( silver & gold ). here i include some pics of my keris in silver combine with gold and gems in toli toli. any comments are very welcom thanks and regards , Ganja iras Attached Images

26th December 2013, 08:00 PM	#6
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Silver/Gold Bugis kris Ganja Irias: Thank you for your comments. Yes they do look similar. It's hard to tell if the work was done by the same person, but it shows the very high quality of silver and gold work done by Indonesian metalworkers. I have seen very few kris of this kind and don't think they are very common at all, even today. .......Dave.

23rd December 2013, 09:20 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	I am with David. Particularly on the toli-toli opinion :-) Indeed a very nice keris in aspect of both the blade as well as the dress. The filigrain and granulation is very nicely done. A little oil for the blade would be recommended ;-) Best regards, Willem

23rd December 2013, 11:59 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Nice pamor. Yes I agree - late 20th century dress.

24th December 2013, 04:38 PM	#4
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 328	Yes the blade is nice, but it seems it has some signs of surface rust. A very light cleaning before oiling would be proper.