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Old 14th November 2013, 07:32 PM   #1
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This Mediterranean lock type is called miquelet to be exact!

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Not this variation, i'm afraid, Michl
To put it simple, when the main spring acts in front (toe) of the cock and not in the back (heel), is called A La Romana.
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Old 14th November 2013, 09:15 PM   #2
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Not this variation, i'm afraid, Michl
To put it simple, when the main spring acts in front (toe) of the cock and not in the back (heel), is called A La Romana.

Oh, I see -

Thanks so much, 'Nando, my dearest friend,
and sorry for troubling you and others as well.

Of course you are right!
I guess I should have either reread the respective passages in Arne Hoff's Feuerwaffen and/or Hayward's The Art of the Gunmaker before firing from the hip - or, even better, stuck to my core competence: 14th to 17th c. Northern European firearms.

Please do forgive an old and hasty 'gunfighter' who was just tryin' to put things straight - and sorta got himself in pullin' his plow iron too quickly ...

On the other hand: I've just caught myself breeding over my third beer - maybe that accounts for me hitting the target!


Best wishes for a good and peaceful night to everybody, especially to those who are not quite so lucky as we can be on this very evening.

And please let me express just how proud and glad I feel to be a continuous part of this forum (sometimes not as continual as I wish to ..), and how grateful I am for you keeping me hanging on!


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Old 15th November 2013, 02:39 AM   #3
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I don't really think the pistol in the original post here is of any great age.
All the metalwork looks quite new, "Sharp" even, and has none of the slightly worn appearance seen on arms of the 18th century and earlier.
It appears whoever made it was unfamiliar with construction methods of the 17th/18th century, and wasn't much of a hand at inletting.


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Old 15th November 2013, 07:06 AM   #4
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All, if you have access to Art, Arms and Armour '79, page 340, you will see Marchesan (central Italy) romanlocks and pistols not unlike the subject pistol. May not be much help, but it is the place I looked first when I saw the subject pistol lock.
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Old 18th November 2013, 01:57 PM   #5
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Hi,

@Miqueleter - could you please post a scan/photo of that page?

I found another similar example in a Czech book, but I have to make a better scan first.

@Richard - holding the pistol in hands I have no doubts it's 18th century. I can compare to other pieces in my collection.

@Michael - it's an honour to have you in my thread. Welcome back!!!

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Old 19th November 2013, 05:02 AM   #6
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Matus, here you go. Not a very good scan. but it will have to do.
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Old 19th November 2013, 08:38 AM   #7
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Hi,

@Miqueleter - could you please post a scan/photo of that page?

I found another similar example in a Czech book, but I have to make a better scan first.

@Richard - holding the pistol in hands I have no doubts it's 18th century. I can compare to other pieces in my collection.

@Michael - it's an honour to have you in my thread. Welcome back!!!

Regards,
Matus

Thank you such much, Matus,

I just felt I had to go and make an input, though miquelets are not exactly my field of specification.


Thank God we now have Miqueleter caring for the suject - nomen est omen!


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Old 19th November 2013, 09:37 AM   #8
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Michael, I am very pleased by your confidence in my "miqueletology", however, I am a late arrival on this forum as the Fernandos cover/have covered the miquelet matters in a timely and superb manner. I butt in only when I can offer something not already said or shown. Still, I am honored to be of help to anyone when the situation arises.
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