Beautiful dagger for ID ?

hbhansen · 30th October 2013, 08:29 PM

This dagger has been offered to me. I like it very much because of its beauty but I actually do not know anything about it, neither do the seller

The blade is wootz with gold inlays and the grip is ivory.
Please help me on origin, type and age if you can.
Thank you very much to all of you !!
Best
HB

Henk · 30th October 2013, 10:28 PM

Wow, what a beauty!!

It is a Pesh Kabz from India. Age? no idea. The more knowledgeable members in this field might give you an answer on that.

ALEX · 31st October 2013, 11:39 AM

yes, it is Indian. although a mix of Pesh and Kard, with more being a Kard - a "mystery dagger" in modern terms

and I think it's more modern as well, the blade is not wootz and likely late last century if not earlier.

ariel · 31st October 2013, 11:57 AM

IMXO, Indo-Persian Khandjar, image 5 may show wootz, but better etching may be revealing. AFAIK, Pesh Kabz as a rule has a T- reinforced blade and Kard is single-edged and is usually straight.
Quite a lot of re-glueing.

ALEX · 31st October 2013, 01:16 PM

Ariel is right on terminology. It's not a classical Pesh or Kard. It's a khanjar/dagger. I do believe it's Indian, and of mechanical damascus, not wootz, and a fairly recent "retrofit".

estcrh · 31st October 2013, 02:03 PM

Here is a pesh (lt) and a kard (rt), the item being discussed has none of the distinctive traits of either one.

hbhansen · 31st October 2013, 08:56 PM

Thank you for all your kind answers.
You gave me several words for the search engine, but I haven't yet found anything like it.
I too think it is not very old.... unfortunately. Mostly because of the lack of patina on the hilt and also the blade. The ivory especially looks brand new...

30th October 2013, 08:29 PM	#1
hbhansen Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 89	Beautiful dagger for ID ? This dagger has been offered to me. I like it very much because of its beauty but I actually do not know anything about it, neither do the seller The blade is wootz with gold inlays and the grip is ivory. Please help me on origin, type and age if you can. Thank you very much to all of you !! Best HB Attached Images Last edited by hbhansen; 30th October 2013 at 08:43 PM.

31st October 2013, 11:39 AM	#3
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	yes, it is Indian. although a mix of Pesh and Kard, with more being a Kard - a "mystery dagger" in modern terms and I think it's more modern as well, the blade is not wootz and likely late last century if not earlier. Last edited by ALEX; 31st October 2013 at 11:49 AM.

31st October 2013, 02:03 PM	#6
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Here is a pesh (lt) and a kard (rt), the item being discussed has none of the distinctive traits of either one. Attached Images

30th October 2013, 10:28 PM	#2
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Wow, what a beauty!! It is a Pesh Kabz from India. Age? no idea. The more knowledgeable members in this field might give you an answer on that.

31st October 2013, 11:57 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	IMXO, Indo-Persian Khandjar, image 5 may show wootz, but better etching may be revealing. AFAIK, Pesh Kabz as a rule has a T- reinforced blade and Kard is single-edged and is usually straight. Quite a lot of re-glueing.

31st October 2013, 01:16 PM	#5
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Ariel is right on terminology. It's not a classical Pesh or Kard. It's a khanjar/dagger. I do believe it's Indian, and of mechanical damascus, not wootz, and a fairly recent "retrofit".

31st October 2013, 08:56 PM	#7
hbhansen Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Denmark Posts: 89	Thank you for all your kind answers. You gave me several words for the search engine, but I haven't yet found anything like it. I too think it is not very old.... unfortunately. Mostly because of the lack of patina on the hilt and also the blade. The ivory especially looks brand new...