Would This Indian Sword Classify as a Sousson Patah???

Runjeet Singh · 16th October 2013, 05:10 PM

Hi Charles,

I think it's earlier than you think. The hilt is 17thC or 18thC and suggests it is likely from Tanjore.

My opinion is that if the blade would be classed as a 'Kopis' blade, then it is a Sousson Patah. The alternative is a Kirach - and the blades are much straighter on those.

According to Rawson's descriptions - this would be a forward-angled blade, a more modern variation to a 13thC Hoysala sword - this would fit in nicely with the Tanjore attribution.

Good buy - well done!

Regards,
Runjeet

Battara · 16th October 2013, 07:09 PM

Not that I am an expert in this field, but I have never seen this form before. Very interesting.

CharlesS · 16th October 2013, 09:29 PM

Thanks for your insight Runjeet. I think the kopis concept is much more appropriate considering what has widely become accepted as a sousson patah. Interesting to learn that you think it was earlier.

The sword has lost some weight due to generations of cleaning, but probably not much and it is very comfortable to weld and very well balanced.

I have always had a weakness for these and truer 'classic' sossun patahs...and I know Battara feels the same way!

Rick · 17th October 2013, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Akaalarms

Hi Charles,

I think it's earlier than you think. The hilt is 17thC or 18thC and suggests it is likely from Tanjore.

My opinion is that if the blade would be classed as a 'Kopis' blade, then it is a Sousson Patah. The alternative is a Kirach - and the blades are much straighter on those.

Okay, now I'm a bit confused .
I have always taken this particular sword for a kirach .

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=kirach

bhushan_lawate · 17th October 2013, 06:47 AM

Hi All,

My guess is this is a "Kirach" as the blade looks to be cut down out of what could have been a longer sword blade earlier.

I'm open to learning more form our more experienced folks out here..!!!

Regards,
Bhushan

16th October 2013, 09:29 PM	#3
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks for your insight Runjeet. I think the kopis concept is much more appropriate considering what has widely become accepted as a sousson patah. Interesting to learn that you think it was earlier. The sword has lost some weight due to generations of cleaning, but probably not much and it is very comfortable to weld and very well balanced. I have always had a weakness for these and truer 'classic' sossun patahs...and I know Battara feels the same way! Last edited by CharlesS; 17th October 2013 at 12:24 AM.

16th October 2013, 05:10 PM	#1
Runjeet Singh Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwickshire, England Posts: 150	Hi Charles, I think it's earlier than you think. The hilt is 17thC or 18thC and suggests it is likely from Tanjore. My opinion is that if the blade would be classed as a 'Kopis' blade, then it is a Sousson Patah. The alternative is a Kirach - and the blades are much straighter on those. According to Rawson's descriptions - this would be a forward-angled blade, a more modern variation to a 13thC Hoysala sword - this would fit in nicely with the Tanjore attribution. Good buy - well done! Regards, Runjeet

16th October 2013, 07:09 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,310	Not that I am an expert in this field, but I have never seen this form before. Very interesting.

17th October 2013, 06:47 AM	#5
bhushan_lawate Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: India Posts: 77	Hi All, My guess is this is a "Kirach" as the blade looks to be cut down out of what could have been a longer sword blade earlier. I'm open to learning more form our more experienced folks out here..!!! Regards, Bhushan