MOST DESIRED OCEANIC WAR CLUBS 3: FIJI

colin henshaw · 10th September 2013, 01:57 PM

As an aside to VANDOO's thread - the Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology, Cambridge, England currently has showing an excellent exhibition, "Chiefs & Governors, Art and Power in Fiji" with many examples of clubs, spears and other Fijian artefacts.

See www.maa.cam.ac.uk

VANDOO · 10th September 2013, 05:41 PM

THANKS COLIN PERHAPS I CAN FIND AN EXCUSE TO POP OVER FOR A LOOK BEFORE THE EXHIBIT ENDS.

I SEE THE FORUMS AS A LIVING REFRENCE AND RESOURCE, WHERE INFORMATION AND PICTURES CAN BE GATHERED AND NEW THINGS ADDED AND QUESTIONS ASKED BY ALL.
WHAT I HAVE DONE WITH THE FIJI POST AS WELL AS THE OTHER POSTS ON CLUBS IS TO ESTABLISH A ROUGH FOUNDATION FOCUSED ON ARTEFACTS FROM THESE AREAS. THIS MAKES IT EASIER TO FIND INFORMATION ON EACH AREA WHEN INFORMATION, PICTURES AND QUESTIONS ARE GATHERED IN ONE PLACE. ANYONE MAY ACCESS THESE POSTS AND PERHAPS FIND THE INFORMATION SOUGHT OR IDENTIFY THEIR CLUB AND HOPEFULLY POST A PICTURE OF THEIR ITEM TO ADD TO THE RESOURCE.

I HOPE IT WILL GROW OVER TIME AND PERHAPS INSPIRE INTREST IN SOME YOUNGSTER TO PURSUE KNOWLEGE IN THE FIELD. THEN PERHAPS IT WILL YEILD SOME NEEDED REFRENCE BOOKS IN THE FUTURE.

THIS IS ALL I HAVE AT PRESENT SO I STOP HERE UNTIL MORE INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST PICTURES AND INFORMATION, ASK QUESTIONS OR CORRECT ME IF I HAVE MADE MISTAKES.

Sajen · 10th September 2013, 07:25 PM

Thank you Barry for this great and informativeinformative thread.

Can add this two plates from "Handbook to the Ethnographical Collections", Britsh Musem from 1910.

VANDOO · 12th September 2013, 05:08 PM

I WILL TRY TO ADD A FEW LINKS TO PREVIOUS POSTS THAT MAY APPLY TO THIS TOPIC AND CLUBS IN GENERAL TO MAKE FINDING THEM EASIER FOR THOSE INTERESTED.
THE FIRST LINK IS ON DESIGNS ON OCEANIC CLUBS.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=maori

THE SECOND ONE OF A SERIES OF 3 ON MAORI SHORT CLUBS
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI

3RD http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI

4TH. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI

5TH. A USEFUL POST ON NEW GUINEA/ TROBRIAND ISLAND CLUBS.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI

6 TH. A INTERESTING POST ON A WHALEBONE CLUB DIDCUSSING ORIGIN AND AGE, MAORI OR NORTH WEST COAST AMERICAN INDIAN.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI

7TH. DISCUSSION OF UNUSUAL FORM OF MAORI CLUB.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI

VANDOO · 16th November 2013, 02:33 AM

MORE PICTURES
#1. 1917 BOOK PLATE, 3 GUGU OR TIVITIVI CLUBS
#2, #3 & 4. TWO NEW FIJI ULAS SHOWING ONE REGULAR FORM AND A FORM LIKELY SHOWING INDIA INFLUENCE I REFER TO IT AS A LOTUS CLUB. PEOPLE FROM INDIA HAVE NOT BEEN LIVING IN FIJI AS LONG AS THE TONGANS BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF INDIAN INFLUENCE.
#5. NEWER ULA 48 X 16 CM. LONG.
#6. A REGULAR TOTOKIA FIJI CLUB AND THE FORM MADE UP FOR STAR WARS BASED ON IT.
#7. WESI OR SPEAR DANCE FIJI
# 8. PLATE FROM OLD BOOK FIJI CLUBS
# 9. THE ROYAL MACE OF FIJI
# 10. 1870 FIJI WARRIOR
# 11 & 12. 1910 CANNIBAL TOM SAID TO BE 90 YEARS OLD AND THE LAST LIVING CANNIBAL AT THE TIME.

VANDOO · 22nd November 2013, 06:10 PM

A FEW MORE PICTURES #1. 12 INCH LONG MODERN TOURIST ULA THROWING CLUB
#2. 1920 FIGI DRUMMER
#3. 1920'S FIJI WARRIORS
#4.1930 PAGOPAGO AMERICAN SAMOA
#5. 1930 FIJI WARRIOR
#6 & 7. FIJI MOCK BATTLE
#8. FIJI WARRIOR WITH CLUB
#9. FIJI WARRIOR WITH WAR AX
#10, 11, & 12 FIJI WARRIORS VARIOUS.

VANDOO · 6th December 2013, 09:38 PM

IN THE ABOVE POST A PICTURE OF 4 SAMOANS GOT INTO THE FIJI TOPIC VERY SNEEKY OF THEM

IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MY MISTAKE

PICTURE #1 DRAWING OF DANCER WITH FIJI DANCE SKIRT THEY ARE MADE OF PAINTED PANDANUS LEAF STRIPS AND OF BARK CLOTH STRIPS (TAPA). THE ONE SHOWN ALSO HAS A SORT OF DECORATION.
#2 & #3 SHOWS THE SKIRT WORN FOR WAR IT IS MADE OF A PARTICULAR TYPE OF BLACK VINE OVER SOME OTHER MATERIAL. SKIRT CALLED (LIKU WALOA).
#4. POSTCARD SHOWING 3 WARRIORS WITH CLUBS
#5. CULACULA MADE OF VESI WOOD 45.5 IN. LONG
#6. OVER SIZE CANNIBAL FORK 35 IN. LONG FOR TOURISTS
#7. FIJI BOVAI CLUB
#8. FIJI FOODS FOR FEAST 1930'S
#9. OLD PRINT FIJI , VARIOUS PICTURES
#10. OLD PRINT FIJI WAR SPEARS, CALLED SOKILAKI
#11. FIJI SHOP WITH ASSORTMENT OF MODERN CLUBS MANY FANTASY FORMS.
#12. TWO WARRIORS POSED PICTURE TAKEN IN 1884

10th September 2013, 01:57 PM	#1
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,429	As an aside to VANDOO's thread - the Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology, Cambridge, England currently has showing an excellent exhibition, "Chiefs & Governors, Art and Power in Fiji" with many examples of clubs, spears and other Fijian artefacts. See www.maa.cam.ac.uk

10th September 2013, 05:41 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THANKS COLIN PERHAPS I CAN FIND AN EXCUSE TO POP OVER FOR A LOOK BEFORE THE EXHIBIT ENDS. I SEE THE FORUMS AS A LIVING REFRENCE AND RESOURCE, WHERE INFORMATION AND PICTURES CAN BE GATHERED AND NEW THINGS ADDED AND QUESTIONS ASKED BY ALL. WHAT I HAVE DONE WITH THE FIJI POST AS WELL AS THE OTHER POSTS ON CLUBS IS TO ESTABLISH A ROUGH FOUNDATION FOCUSED ON ARTEFACTS FROM THESE AREAS. THIS MAKES IT EASIER TO FIND INFORMATION ON EACH AREA WHEN INFORMATION, PICTURES AND QUESTIONS ARE GATHERED IN ONE PLACE. ANYONE MAY ACCESS THESE POSTS AND PERHAPS FIND THE INFORMATION SOUGHT OR IDENTIFY THEIR CLUB AND HOPEFULLY POST A PICTURE OF THEIR ITEM TO ADD TO THE RESOURCE. I HOPE IT WILL GROW OVER TIME AND PERHAPS INSPIRE INTREST IN SOME YOUNGSTER TO PURSUE KNOWLEGE IN THE FIELD. THEN PERHAPS IT WILL YEILD SOME NEEDED REFRENCE BOOKS IN THE FUTURE. THIS IS ALL I HAVE AT PRESENT SO I STOP HERE UNTIL MORE INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST PICTURES AND INFORMATION, ASK QUESTIONS OR CORRECT ME IF I HAVE MADE MISTAKES.

10th September 2013, 07:25 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,270	Thank you Barry for this great and informativeinformative thread. Can add this two plates from "Handbook to the Ethnographical Collections", Britsh Musem from 1910. Attached Images

12th September 2013, 05:08 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I WILL TRY TO ADD A FEW LINKS TO PREVIOUS POSTS THAT MAY APPLY TO THIS TOPIC AND CLUBS IN GENERAL TO MAKE FINDING THEM EASIER FOR THOSE INTERESTED. THE FIRST LINK IS ON DESIGNS ON OCEANIC CLUBS. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=maori THE SECOND ONE OF A SERIES OF 3 ON MAORI SHORT CLUBS http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI 3RD http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI 4TH. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI 5TH. A USEFUL POST ON NEW GUINEA/ TROBRIAND ISLAND CLUBS. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI 6 TH. A INTERESTING POST ON A WHALEBONE CLUB DIDCUSSING ORIGIN AND AGE, MAORI OR NORTH WEST COAST AMERICAN INDIAN. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI 7TH. DISCUSSION OF UNUSUAL FORM OF MAORI CLUB. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=MAORI Last edited by VANDOO; 12th September 2013 at 06:47 PM.

16th November 2013, 02:33 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MORE PICTURES #1. 1917 BOOK PLATE, 3 GUGU OR TIVITIVI CLUBS #2, #3 & 4. TWO NEW FIJI ULAS SHOWING ONE REGULAR FORM AND A FORM LIKELY SHOWING INDIA INFLUENCE I REFER TO IT AS A LOTUS CLUB. PEOPLE FROM INDIA HAVE NOT BEEN LIVING IN FIJI AS LONG AS THE TONGANS BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF INDIAN INFLUENCE. #5. NEWER ULA 48 X 16 CM. LONG. #6. A REGULAR TOTOKIA FIJI CLUB AND THE FORM MADE UP FOR STAR WARS BASED ON IT. #7. WESI OR SPEAR DANCE FIJI # 8. PLATE FROM OLD BOOK FIJI CLUBS # 9. THE ROYAL MACE OF FIJI # 10. 1870 FIJI WARRIOR # 11 & 12. 1910 CANNIBAL TOM SAID TO BE 90 YEARS OLD AND THE LAST LIVING CANNIBAL AT THE TIME. Attached Images

22nd November 2013, 06:10 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE PICTURES #1. 12 INCH LONG MODERN TOURIST ULA THROWING CLUB #2. 1920 FIGI DRUMMER #3. 1920'S FIJI WARRIORS #4.1930 PAGOPAGO AMERICAN SAMOA #5. 1930 FIJI WARRIOR #6 & 7. FIJI MOCK BATTLE #8. FIJI WARRIOR WITH CLUB #9. FIJI WARRIOR WITH WAR AX #10, 11, & 12 FIJI WARRIORS VARIOUS. Attached Images

6th December 2013, 09:38 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IN THE ABOVE POST A PICTURE OF 4 SAMOANS GOT INTO THE FIJI TOPIC VERY SNEEKY OF THEM IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MY MISTAKE PICTURE #1 DRAWING OF DANCER WITH FIJI DANCE SKIRT THEY ARE MADE OF PAINTED PANDANUS LEAF STRIPS AND OF BARK CLOTH STRIPS (TAPA). THE ONE SHOWN ALSO HAS A SORT OF DECORATION. #2 & #3 SHOWS THE SKIRT WORN FOR WAR IT IS MADE OF A PARTICULAR TYPE OF BLACK VINE OVER SOME OTHER MATERIAL. SKIRT CALLED (LIKU WALOA). #4. POSTCARD SHOWING 3 WARRIORS WITH CLUBS #5. CULACULA MADE OF VESI WOOD 45.5 IN. LONG #6. OVER SIZE CANNIBAL FORK 35 IN. LONG FOR TOURISTS #7. FIJI BOVAI CLUB #8. FIJI FOODS FOR FEAST 1930'S #9. OLD PRINT FIJI , VARIOUS PICTURES #10. OLD PRINT FIJI WAR SPEARS, CALLED SOKILAKI #11. FIJI SHOP WITH ASSORTMENT OF MODERN CLUBS MANY FANTASY FORMS. #12. TWO WARRIORS POSED PICTURE TAKEN IN 1884 Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 6th December 2013 at 10:41 PM.