Middle-Eastern Dagger?

VANDOO · 5th September 2013, 05:33 PM

WELCOME TO THE FORUMS TOM. WE WILL NEED PICTURES AND MEASURMENTS OF THE DAGGER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PSYCIC MEMBERS BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 5th September 2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

WELCOME TO THE FORUMS TOM. WE WILL NEED PICTURES AND MEASURMENTS OF THE DAGGER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PSYCIC MEMBERS BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

Salaams Vandoo...~ come on wheres your sense of adventure?

Its obviously an Omani Khanjar with a Bull horn hilt, from Nizwa dated about 1900 with a lot of bits missing (in fact it's totally missing !) Welcome to the Forum Tom.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

trenchwarfare · 5th September 2013, 09:50 PM

Welcome aboard tonil. And the answer is...

kronckew · 6th September 2013, 06:38 AM

please pardon the attempts at humour by some. it's part of the initiation for 1st time posters. taking the mick is a time honour british tradition, passed on to other nations. (p.s. - adding a location to your user profile is also useful)

you might want to refer to This FAQ

as i am an american, i shall be completely serious however.

i am psychic (or is that psychotic?), i forget what my psychiatrist defined it as. anyway, the condition has to do with a love of sharp pointy things.

i have a vision.

it is definitely an old pre-2014 thingamabob. is a specialised form of a thingy, also sometimes called a wotsit, but more properly a watchamacallit. if it has a doohicky attached to the base of the rabbernacker with a silver moebius nut, it will be worth a lot of money (we do NOT discuss numerical amounts here in public), humongous comes to mind tho. the silver wooden scabbard is likely made from silverwood, a rare tree that excretes a sap made out of raw .999 (with birmingham proof marks) silver amalgam that hardens into decorative patterns. the decorations vary in quality and quantity depending on the age of the silverwood tree. sometimes also used on grips, it has a tendency to fall off in coin shaped patches, exposing the underlying wood. the patches are used as currency by the locals. usually to buy edible moebius nuts which are slightly addictive.

dimensions, weights, colour photos of the unsheathed item and scabbard all will help in further evaluation, closeups of markings also are helpful.

do not confuse the moebius nut with the more common knife nut.

moebius nut (left), followed by a knife nut(right):
: (tfel) tun suibeom yb dewollof (thgir) tun efink eb lliw taht israf/cibara ni ro

tonil · 7th September 2013, 12:07 PM

Apologies for the lack of photos in my first post I didn't see the specifications for photos so I was trying to add them in a resolution that is not supported.

Fingers crossed with this second attempt will be more successful...

Tim Simmons · 7th September 2013, 04:37 PM

Looks to me like an Iraqi Marsh Arab dagger. A nice older one. I do not think the scabbard metal is silver.

kahnjar1 · 7th September 2013, 08:28 PM

Not a Marsh Dagger IMHO. The top of the hilt is all wrong for that. Looks more like a Kurdish dagger with worn shoulders. The scabbard etc could well be silver. The easy way to check, is to see if the metal is magnetic. If it is not, then it is likely silver of some undetermined quality.
Stu

5th September 2013, 09:50 PM	#3
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Welcome aboard tonil. And the answer is... Attached Images Last edited by trenchwarfare; 5th September 2013 at 10:19 PM.

6th September 2013, 06:38 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,238	please pardon the attempts at humour by some. it's part of the initiation for 1st time posters. taking the mick is a time honour british tradition, passed on to other nations. (p.s. - adding a location to your user profile is also useful) you might want to refer to This FAQ as i am an american, i shall be completely serious however. i am psychic (or is that psychotic?), i forget what my psychiatrist defined it as. anyway, the condition has to do with a love of sharp pointy things. i have a vision. it is definitely an old pre-2014 thingamabob. is a specialised form of a thingy, also sometimes called a wotsit, but more properly a watchamacallit. if it has a doohicky attached to the base of the rabbernacker with a silver moebius nut, it will be worth a lot of money (we do NOT discuss numerical amounts here in public), humongous comes to mind tho. the silver wooden scabbard is likely made from silverwood, a rare tree that excretes a sap made out of raw .999 (with birmingham proof marks) silver amalgam that hardens into decorative patterns. the decorations vary in quality and quantity depending on the age of the silverwood tree. sometimes also used on grips, it has a tendency to fall off in coin shaped patches, exposing the underlying wood. the patches are used as currency by the locals. usually to buy edible moebius nuts which are slightly addictive. dimensions, weights, colour photos of the unsheathed item and scabbard all will help in further evaluation, closeups of markings also are helpful. do not confuse the moebius nut with the more common knife nut. moebius nut (left), followed by a knife nut(right): : (tfel) tun suibeom yb dewollof (thgir) tun efink eb lliw taht israf/cibara ni ro Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 6th September 2013 at 07:38 AM.

7th September 2013, 12:07 PM	#5
tonil Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 7	Apologies for the lack of photos in my first post I didn't see the specifications for photos so I was trying to add them in a resolution that is not supported. Fingers crossed with this second attempt will be more successful... Attached Images

5th September 2013, 05:33 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WELCOME TO THE FORUMS TOM. WE WILL NEED PICTURES AND MEASURMENTS OF THE DAGGER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY PSYCIC MEMBERS BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

7th September 2013, 04:37 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	Looks to me like an Iraqi Marsh Arab dagger. A nice older one. I do not think the scabbard metal is silver.

7th September 2013, 08:28 PM	#7
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,799	Not a Marsh Dagger IMHO. The top of the hilt is all wrong for that. Looks more like a Kurdish dagger with worn shoulders. The scabbard etc could well be silver. The easy way to check, is to see if the metal is magnetic. If it is not, then it is likely silver of some undetermined quality. Stu