Breech loading chamber for a cannon 16th century

fernando · 25th August 2013, 10:40 PM

An interestic piece, as already stated.
I wonder whether you have strong evidence that it was found in the place you mention. Not subtracting at all its importance if it was found somewhere else; it's just that selling sources often like to 'romanticize' the provenance of (these) things to ensure their top price.
Pity that one of our forum 'permanent specialists' has been (and will be) seriously ill for a long while, but i trust that other knowledged members pop in with their opinion.

Meanwhile, would you like to have a look in here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=chamber

Marcus den toom · 26th August 2013, 09:00 AM

It was sold in combination with all other kinds of items. Those items didn't sell though, so if you are interested i know where too find you a martar cannon (with the breech blown out), 3 spurs from 16th century and some oother nice things

I will ask the auction house to provide documents to verify the authenticity of the piece.

And i already read the whole thread back and forth

My good friend Bolek pointed this thread to me while he is constructing my breechloading pistol.

Sadly indeed, but hopefullly Matchlock will be back with us.. i never had the pleasure of talking to him, but seeing the amount of information he gives,i would very much like to meet him

Marcus den toom · 9th September 2013, 01:10 PM

Today my package arrived with the breech chamber.
It does look very nice, hopefully it will spark a lifely conversation on the forum.

Matchlock · 5th October 2013, 03:39 PM

Hi Marcus,

Congratulations on acquiring that nice wrought-iron detachable breech that has been preserved in perfectly uncleaned original condition. Please do keep it as it is.

Wrought-iron breech-loading pieces of cannon with interchangeable chambers/breeches have been made since at least the mid-15th c., thus continuing being kept in use for about 100 years, almost without any significant formal or stylistic development that would be noticeable and allow a closer dating.
From the later part of their working life, we have records thru the samples found in the wreck of the Mary Rose that sunk in 1545.

Best,
Michael

25th August 2013, 10:40 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	An interestic piece, as already stated. I wonder whether you have strong evidence that it was found in the place you mention. Not subtracting at all its importance if it was found somewhere else; it's just that selling sources often like to 'romanticize' the provenance of (these) things to ensure their top price. Pity that one of our forum 'permanent specialists' has been (and will be) seriously ill for a long while, but i trust that other knowledged members pop in with their opinion. Meanwhile, would you like to have a look in here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=chamber

26th August 2013, 09:00 AM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	It was sold in combination with all other kinds of items. Those items didn't sell though, so if you are interested i know where too find you a martar cannon (with the breech blown out), 3 spurs from 16th century and some oother nice things I will ask the auction house to provide documents to verify the authenticity of the piece. And i already read the whole thread back and forth My good friend Bolek pointed this thread to me while he is constructing my breechloading pistol. Sadly indeed, but hopefullly Matchlock will be back with us.. i never had the pleasure of talking to him, but seeing the amount of information he gives,i would very much like to meet him

9th September 2013, 01:10 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Today my package arrived with the breech chamber. It does look very nice, hopefully it will spark a lifely conversation on the forum.

5th October 2013, 03:39 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, Congratulations on acquiring that nice wrought-iron detachable breech that has been preserved in perfectly uncleaned original condition. Please do keep it as it is. Wrought-iron breech-loading pieces of cannon with interchangeable chambers/breeches have been made since at least the mid-15th c., thus continuing being kept in use for about 100 years, almost without any significant formal or stylistic development that would be noticeable and allow a closer dating. From the later part of their working life, we have records thru the samples found in the wreck of the Mary Rose that sunk in 1545. Best, Michael