Balinese/Lombok pedang

asomotif · 23rd July 2013, 11:04 PM

To blur the discussion maybe even more.
Here is another Pedang from the same auction.

Lombok or Sumatra ? and why ?

Maurice · 24th July 2013, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

To blur the discussion maybe even more.
Here is another Pedang from the same auction.

Lombok or Sumatra ? and why ?

Bali/Lombok I guess according the decorations at the scabbard.

VVV · 24th July 2013, 08:22 AM

Of course these observations are only indications but altogether they seem to point to Lombok.

The squarish hilt is Lombok style.
The motifs on the silver resembles those seen on other Lombok weapons.
A fuller and no intricate pamor are features often seen on Lombok.

Michael

PS Charles, mail me if you want to further discuss any of your own pedang/kelewang.

Gustav · 30th June 2014, 02:28 PM

By pure chance looked through this thread (I suppose it's not relevant anymore; as I understand Maurice has sold this Pedang), and have found an interesting detail.

It seems to have a twistcore pamor, which means a couple of things:

almost surely

A) the blade (if old) is of Lombok origin;

B) the fullers are not original or at least not originally intended;

C) the inlays are not original.

A. G. Maisey · 30th June 2014, 11:41 PM

Always relevant Gustav. Knowledge doesn't really have a time limit.

We see this sort of thing fairly frequently. People do not want to believe that it could be recent, but in my experience it nearly always is, especially so when it is beautiful and perfect, because this sort of ornamentation does not wear well.

23rd July 2013, 11:04 PM	#1
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30th June 2014, 02:28 PM	#4
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	By pure chance looked through this thread (I suppose it's not relevant anymore; as I understand Maurice has sold this Pedang), and have found an interesting detail. It seems to have a twistcore pamor, which means a couple of things: almost surely A) the blade (if old) is of Lombok origin; B) the fullers are not original or at least not originally intended; C) the inlays are not original. Attached Images Last edited by Gustav; 30th June 2014 at 02:49 PM.

24th July 2013, 08:22 AM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Of course these observations are only indications but altogether they seem to point to Lombok. The squarish hilt is Lombok style. The motifs on the silver resembles those seen on other Lombok weapons. A fuller and no intricate pamor are features often seen on Lombok. Michael PS Charles, mail me if you want to further discuss any of your own pedang/kelewang.

30th June 2014, 11:41 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	Always relevant Gustav. Knowledge doesn't really have a time limit. We see this sort of thing fairly frequently. People do not want to believe that it could be recent, but in my experience it nearly always is, especially so when it is beautiful and perfect, because this sort of ornamentation does not wear well.