Looking for a rapier identical to this one.

fernando · 3rd July 2013, 07:42 PM

Is this original ?

kronckew · 3rd July 2013, 08:16 PM

i cannot tell a lie. she IS 'original', but she is very young

she was only born last week after a 5 week gestation period. took her a week to travel here from prague. she arrived yesterday. she and her clothes were custom made to my measurements. we seemed to have slightly different opinions on what 'sharp' means tho.

ah, well. i've got some nice diamond stones.

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i told him i was after historical accuracy, as much as possible anyway. he seems to have done a good job. i was after a 'user' rather than a noble's fashion accessory.

p.s. - he makes ones much like yours as well

fernando · 6th July 2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

... p.s. - he makes ones much like yours as well

Thanks for the heads up Wayne, but i only pick real antique stuff ... with seppuku prices

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No practicing; only exhibiting them ... to myself

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kronckew · 7th July 2013, 10:04 AM

i like looking at old ones too.

i also like being able to poke holes in melons and milk jugs and slice them into paper thin slices with well made historical reproductions that i can stress without worry; and i can try stuff with them i would never try with one of my actual antiques. knowing how they handle is half the fun.

why get any modern 'tactical' sharp pointy things when the old styles are battle tested. they are also cheaper tho frequently more utilitarian and not up to the same level of craftsmanship and finesse. i also like to keep these traditional smithies funded to keep the skills alive as much as possible.

i recall seeing the sutton hoo horde with the relic weapons displayed with the reconstructed replicas. much more informative.

Dmitry · 9th July 2013, 03:25 PM

Just curious...why did you choose to buy a rapier that doesn't resemble a historical weapon, but is a "fantasy piece"?

kronckew · 9th July 2013, 04:47 PM

fantasy? it's not quite a klingon bat'leth or a hibben stainless steel construct.

i saw 'real' ones that were close enough to this one.

i could have had a more historical replica i guess, but the intent was not to have a passable 100% accurate fake copy of an existing period piece, but one close enough that still worked. the maker may have used a bit of artistic license. it is after all an interpretation in a 21st c. sword, not a 16th c one. at least it is hand made, forged and ground rather than a mass produced machine made one stamped out of sheet metal with plastic parts.

ultimately i chose that model because i liked it better than the others. the same as my greyhounds, who were chosen not because they were the best of breed, or the fastest racers or the best hunters, they were just good dogs and we suited each other. i enjoyed them in spite of people shouting at me that they were too skinny, or looked more like deer, or lost someone money when the had bet on them in a race. or even the ones that insisted they weren't real greyhounds. they were.

all-in-all, aren't all 'rapiers' a 'fantasy' weapon? what is a 'rapier'? this seems to be a broad made-up term for a broad class of long skinny bladed thrusting weapons with fanciful elaborate (or not so elaborate) guards, most of which were never called or considered 'rapiers' by their owners.

Dmitry · 9th July 2013, 06:49 PM

Fair enough. Just wanted to know your m.o.

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Originally Posted by kronckew

what is a 'rapier'? this seems to be a broad made-up term for a broad class of long skinny bladed thrusting weapons with fanciful elaborate (or not so elaborate) guards, most of which were never called or considered 'rapiers' by their owners.

Well, a rapier in my interpretation is a thrusting sword with a straight blade of at least 90 cm., a hilt that offers more protection for a palm than a simple guard, and with a ricasso. I'm sure others' versions will vary.

9th July 2013, 04:47 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,238	fantasy? it's not quite a klingon bat'leth or a hibben stainless steel construct. i saw 'real' ones that were close enough to this one. i could have had a more historical replica i guess, but the intent was not to have a passable 100% accurate fake copy of an existing period piece, but one close enough that still worked. the maker may have used a bit of artistic license. it is after all an interpretation in a 21st c. sword, not a 16th c one. at least it is hand made, forged and ground rather than a mass produced machine made one stamped out of sheet metal with plastic parts. ultimately i chose that model because i liked it better than the others. the same as my greyhounds, who were chosen not because they were the best of breed, or the fastest racers or the best hunters, they were just good dogs and we suited each other. i enjoyed them in spite of people shouting at me that they were too skinny, or looked more like deer, or lost someone money when the had bet on them in a race. or even the ones that insisted they weren't real greyhounds. they were. all-in-all, aren't all 'rapiers' a 'fantasy' weapon? what is a 'rapier'? this seems to be a broad made-up term for a broad class of long skinny bladed thrusting weapons with fanciful elaborate (or not so elaborate) guards, most of which were never called or considered 'rapiers' by their owners. Last edited by kronckew; 9th July 2013 at 05:42 PM.

3rd July 2013, 07:42 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Is this original ?

3rd July 2013, 08:16 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,238	i cannot tell a lie. she IS 'original', but she is very young she was only born last week after a 5 week gestation period. took her a week to travel here from prague. she arrived yesterday. she and her clothes were custom made to my measurements. we seemed to have slightly different opinions on what 'sharp' means tho. ah, well. i've got some nice diamond stones. more kiddy porn: i told him i was after historical accuracy, as much as possible anyway. he seems to have done a good job. i was after a 'user' rather than a noble's fashion accessory. p.s. - he makes ones much like yours as well

7th July 2013, 10:04 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,238	i like looking at old ones too. i also like being able to poke holes in melons and milk jugs and slice them into paper thin slices with well made historical reproductions that i can stress without worry; and i can try stuff with them i would never try with one of my actual antiques. knowing how they handle is half the fun. why get any modern 'tactical' sharp pointy things when the old styles are battle tested. they are also cheaper tho frequently more utilitarian and not up to the same level of craftsmanship and finesse. i also like to keep these traditional smithies funded to keep the skills alive as much as possible. i recall seeing the sutton hoo horde with the relic weapons displayed with the reconstructed replicas. much more informative.

9th July 2013, 03:25 PM	#5
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Just curious...why did you choose to buy a rapier that doesn't resemble a historical weapon, but is a "fantasy piece"?